Cops Arrest 2 Black Men Sitting In Starbucks For ‘Trespassing’: Video

Basic economics, are you saying the average black person can't afford a cup of coffee from Starbucks.

Did you read even read the OP, I am not saying Starbucks is racist unfortunately sometimes you have a racist person working for you.

It's just mind boggling watching person after person trying to come on this forum and make excuses for how these young men were treated. It's downright pathetic.

 

You lost me, did they tell her to leave or did they say, "mamam your card was declined". Unless she had cash or another card why would she hang around a gas station unless she was asking other customers for money.

 

She was 'waiting for a friend' to buy her gas........I think his name was Andrew Yaffe.......suddenly you are hypocritically saying that people just can't hang out in businesses for no reason? As explained previously the black racist gas station owners called the cops who forced my daughter off the property. Again, thanks for exposing your anti-White racism

 

The two arrested men freely admit they were asked to buy or leave and did neither. That's trespassing...pure and simple.
I'm sorry you can't accept that but it's in everyone's political self interests (Starbucks, the police, the city) to claim mea culpa and hope the furor will die out, which it will soon. But this issue will never be resolved because no one has any interest in finding out what really happened
and Starbucks itself will wind up being the ultimate victim.
Oh well...that's what they wanted.

Bystander's off the cuff comments ("Well I used the bathroom once and no asked me to buy anything") are pointless and my daughter has said the same thing (not the pointless part) and I've pointed out so have I. But the difference is that was in a nearly empty Starbucks and I had just gotten there.

IF I had taken a buying customer's place while I sat there buying nothing and IF a manager or worker asked me, nicely, to buy or move on
I have no legal, moral or ethical stand on which to refuse. But for some reason everyone is standing up for these two black guy's
right to use a businesse's facilities as they had a right to use it as their own.
That's what a parasite does.

 

This is NOT about buying something "immediately" and in fact people were asked to buy something or leave and they refused to do either!
AS if it was their God given right to loiter in Starbucks. Try to be a little less disingenuous.

 

You eat at certain places every weekend and no one knows you Ookay....

Why is it obvious? I've been in Starbucks all over Northern California when my kids drag me in.
And why is it so ****ing hard to understand that at a private business you don't have a right to be there? If you are requested to buy something or leave you don't have the option to ignore the request. That's why the arrest was properly executed and now these two idiots have become sacred cows.

Are you actually finding it difficult to believe someone would love fried chicken (and yes, corn on the cob and watermelon) and NOT be black? These are the foods we all ate and loved. Pull your head out of your you know what.
You think you have a monopoly on chicken? My father was from Missouri, okay?
We had cornbread and beans too. Amazing, right?

If you are in a restaurant and the waitress asks you to order something why would I NOT order? That's what I'm there for.

So you are saying it's permissible and proper to not only NOT order when asked but to refuse to leave the premises as well?
That's grounds for arrest, chum! Learn the law unless you think being black gives you special legal privileges.
Your "freaking business meeting" should be held in an office building if you want to sit around and take up space in a public restaurant
without patronizing the business.

You might want to post the transcript of the manager's call to the police too. She clearly states the entitled clowns refused to order and refused to leave. Did the white people there listen into the phone call too? Such a foolish attempt to spin things.

Find the customer that said no one was turned away, or never entered at all, because these two parasites weren't taking the space reserved for paying customers. I've read lots of news accounts. I never heard anyone say anything like that.

It's not amazing at all! It's called being afraid of political blow back in a largely black city. <<MOD EDIT - Rule 3 - Removed Flamebaiting - Lee S>>

Maybe the homeless have already figured out that Starbucks has capitulated to parasites,.

I never said that so no wonder you can't figure things out. What I actually said was if I arrive first at a restaurant and get seated I always order a drink or appetizer so I'm not monopolizing a table that is bringing in no income for the business.
I guess I just have a sense of ethics and consideration for others you cannot understand. Or will ever have.

 

Them cops were not able to charge them with that. Says so right in the OP. Clear and simple. So stop claiming you know the law better.

If Starbucks was in the right, than they got nothing to fear. You just can't accept that they are in the wrong, because you think them 2 were able to be charged with a crime.... which is not the case. The only thing that stands in the way is you accepting the law how it is, and backtrack from there who was in the wrong.

You're just inventing your own reality here just like you invented they committed a crime.

 

Actually once they refused to leave, they were trespassing. That is a crime.

 

Actually once they refused to leave, they were trespassing. That is a crime.

 

I didn't say you can't hangout, I asked WHO hangs out in a gas station. Now you are claiming she was waiting on a friend to buy her gas. Which is it, did she not have the money to pay for the gas or was she waiting on a friend to buy her some gas.

There is a lot of this story you are leaving out. Also from the attitude you display on this forum I don't really see you patronizing anything that isn't lily white.

 

So, the public can go onto private property and just hang out, break company policy, and if asked to leave, they can just ignore the employee? That amounts to trespass and the cops could have charged them with it but the political fallout would be too much. Now, using your reasoning, I should be able to ignore a stores no guns allowed sign and carry onto their property and if they ask me to leave, I should just ignore them.

 

Your attitude about hanging around businesses for no reason, without buying any product, sure seems to change when the person is White. Classic racism........

 

Hell hang around a drug corner and not buy something and see what happens to you.

 

I didn't care what race, creed, ethnicity or religion anyone who came into my shop was only a customer when the made a purchase. They even got sly about it. They would bring something to the checkout and say I want to buy this can I use your restroom. Then tell me they changed their mind. After that I would tell them pay for your item and I'll keep it safe behind the counter while you use the rest room first. If some stranger came to your front door and asked to use your bathroom would you let them in? So many folks confuse public spaces and private spaces open to the public. A public space is one paid for and maintained by a city, county, state or federal government. A private space open to the public is one paid for and maintained by a private entity.

 

Lol, waiting for someone at Starbucks is a helluva lot different than hanging out at a gas station.

You claimed that she didn't have the money to pay and then you changed it to she was waiting on someone else to come and pay. Which is it?

I could careless is she went there and pitched a tent more power to her

 

How do you know when you are on a drug corner, is there a sign hanging to indicate that is what it is.

 

They sure don't.

Sure you do, as long as, you are not committing a crime or disturbance.

Isn't that the reason for going in there. If I am waiting for someone that is what I say and I have never had a problem.

Is that why the Police Commissioner apologized.

Move on from that BS, you were already peeped on that.

Take your own advice or stop making dumbass comments.

Let us move on.

Because all of my party is not there yet. Duh.

I have eaten at many restaurants over the years and I have never been asked to leave because all of my party has not arrived.

Blah, blah, blah, that BS doesn't even make sense.

Your a ****ing idiot if you think folks don't have business mtgs at coffee shops, restaurants, etc.

The only fool here is you, it is just so hard for you to listen to the words of the CEO, police commissioner and mayor because it doesn't fit your racist narrative to make these young men out to be criminals.

Post where the manager said nobody could come in because of these gentleman, if you watch the video there were plenty of empty tables around these young men, so that bullshit doesn't hold water.

Snowflake, do you live on a ****ing all white compound because you don't have a ****ing clue. Get out sometime and see how the rest of America lives.

Smfh.

More stupid bullshit, You don't run a tab at Starbucks you pay when you order so if you are buying why the **** would I order. Unfuckingbelievable.

Go spit that bullshit to somebody who might believe it. Bottomline is these young men were not stopping snubodu else from ordering and the sure as he'l were no trespassing. Thank God that the white customers who were actually at the restaurant don't have the mindset of the sheetwearers like many on this forum do.

 

The cops were able to charge a crime. They chose not to.
If a business asks you to leave due to nonpayment, you don't have the option to stay because that's what you want to do.
Look up the law if you want. Prove me wrong.

Amazing how you are arguing from ignorance.
Nobody has a right to loiter in a business. Again, prove me wrong. They were asked to buy something or leave and they refused to do
either. Not their business. Not their call.

Funny stuff. Are you a comedian?

 

A crime like trespassing, you mean?

And if someone asks you to order anyway or go away? Do you have the right to remain anyway?

The police did their duty and they did it properly.
The apology was made, I presume, due to political pressure.

Yes. Now that you've learned something you should.

Not even a drink of some sort while you are waiting?
LOL@U! Either you are claiming this because you don't want to concede the point, which is the most likely reason.
Or you want your friends to pay for all your stuff. At any rate what YOU do is irrelevant.
If a manager asked YOU to order or leave YOU don't have the option to ignore her and trespass. So let's get beyond what YOU do
and how YOU handle things. YOU weren't handcuffed by Philadelphia cops.

Congratulations! Me neither. See the above post.

Yeah, your receiver doesn't seem to pick up much.

Meetings where
nothing is ordered and business space is taken up while nothing comes back to the business? No. Aside from these two parasites I don't think business meetings like that do exist.

You lose because you resort to name calling.
I could explain why you are wrong but you don't deserve an answer. It's already been answered anyway.

I said they were taking up space from other people who wanted to sit down and actually order Starbucks product. Provide a picture of the shop when the manager came and spoke to the two parasites. Then you might have something but not really.

I don't know how old you are but you need to grow up. To deny the racial component of this story, which it's ALL about with lots of charges of racism being thrown around, is frankly very, very stupid and dishonest.

Spfa,

Stop posting angry obscene material, please. Grow up and calm down. And realize if you are sitting
in a Starbucks you need to order something. It's a business. Not your personal club house, bro. Your comment is so ridiculous.

Just blatantly untrue. Do you think your denials, without any supporting facts
are just true because you claim it? The police knew why they were going to Starbucks to remove two trespassers.
Apparently you think your fact free b.s. counts no matter what.

More personal insults. I wonder if the mods approve of such racist garbage.STOP WITH THE INSULTS!

 

Here's where I agree with you. Starbucks was meant for loitering.

Has no one ever watched Friends????

 

In this case it apparently was not... because the OP states that the cops could not file any charges. Says so right in the OP.

 

Starbucks chose being smart rather than right.

Still ZERO evidence that race had anything to do with it. I listened to the interview with the two men and they said they were there for a business meeting. They were doing a real estate deal. One man admitted that a worker came to their table and asked if they wanted anything. He said he brought his own water bottle from outside and refused to order.

If you were the store manager and someone who brought their own drink into your store was refusing to order, Isn't it a safe assumption that they do not plan on ordering? Since they were there to work a real estate deal, I would like to ask what they would do if the property was occupied by a squatter when they bought it?

 

The OP states... and I quote ... “We declined to bring charges against the two men because there was a lack of evidence that a crime was committed,”

How about you go read the OP, instead of inventing fake news.

I present you the following facts:
1) No charges were able to filed.
2) Starbucks is groveling with excuses.

All it needs now, is for you to let go with the fiction, and accept the facts.

 

Why don't you guys understand that Yaffe said he was buying. You don't run a tab at Starbucks, if someone else is treating why in the hell would I buy something.

 

So we are already downgrading from racism to being wrong. That is a step in the right direction. Where do we draw the line on waiting for the paying party to show up? 10 minutes? An hour?