Parkland Middle School student hit, killed on Loop 375 after leaving campus during walkout

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  1. PARTIZAN1

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    They are correct you cannot get a waiver of liability that gets you out of a requirement of REASONABLE CARE.
     
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    As I said in another post, I taught high school for three decades and planned and supervised hundreds of events. The lawyers made it absolutely clear the waiver meant nothing where our liability was concerned.

    I coached sports and the message was the same. We had a duty to supervise and protect the student.
    The parent's permission is never required legally when the school is supervising the student.

    I had parents beg me to play their kids on hurt knees, ankles, even suspected concussions. In every case, the answer was "No!" My first obligation is to protect the student.
     
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    I doubt that they would need a permission slip as the walk out group never left the school grounds
     
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    Since the school sanctioned the assembly, whether or not it you consider it unnecessary is irrelevant.

    There was quite a bit of supervision. From the OP's link-

    Students taking part in the walkout had gone out to the football field to congregate.

    However, a group of students jumped a wall and left campus, then headed toward the highway, students said.

    De La Torre said school officials are trying to determine why the students left campus. ​

    He said staff was posted at the front and back of the school, but the sixth-grader and the students with him left by a side.

    Like I said previously, proving negligence is going to be hard to do.
     
  5. LangleyMan

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    Yes, and I took my responsibility seriously.
     
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    Naw, man. Read the OP's link- they were supervising, and the kids deliberately snuck out an door they weren't supposed to use and then climbed a wall. It's impossible to monitor determined kids that deliberately didn't follow directions, in order to slip away. That's not negligence.

    Students taking part in the walkout had gone out to the football field to congregate.

    However, a group of students jumped a wall and left campus, then headed toward the highway, students said.

    De La Torre said school officials are trying to determine why the students left campus.

    He said staff was posted at the front and back of the school, but the sixth-grader and the students with him left by a side.
     
  7. PARTIZAN1

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    I am sure you did.
     
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    yes the protest was meaningless if that's what it was about it didn't convince anyone.

    well I'm actually a mixed-raced homosexual man married to another man so wait a miss the mark on your stupid bigotry as well.
     
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    Yer an interesting cat.
     
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    That would depend on whether the kids were allowed or encouraged by teachers to protest or the just snuck out and off the school property. If they just took off secretively then the school won't be held responsible. If they were allowed or encouraged to leave and protest without the parents being immediately notified of the children leaving school property then they'll get hammered hard.

    “Duty is a legal conclusion about relationships between individuals, made after the fact, and imperative to a negligence cause of action․ The ultimate test of the existence of the duty to use care is found in the foreseeability that harm may result if it is not exercised․”
     
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    Well thanks but honestly I'm pretty much like any other guy you'll ever meet it's just some details about me that are unusual.

    But I did take that as a compliment thank you
     
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    So if they never left school grounds this is the same as if the school held a pep rally before a big game. Right?
     
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    Show me where I said the NRA shoot up schools.
     
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    Talk about nonsense your post is a load of nonsense.
     
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    No it is only if you are opposed to a function that the school allowed.
     
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    Why didn't the school foresee that students might try to use the mass leaving the classrooms for the football field as a means to sneak off campus and put a teacher by the side door. That's foreseeable, that has been going on since I was in grade school in the 1960's.
     
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    It does not matter if you are opposed to the reason there was a walkout the school is liable. If you are in favor of the walkout the parents are at fault.
     
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    You have nerve entering facts into this argument.
     
  19. Robert

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    As I recall this, Democrats claim DeVos is trying to release her strangle hold on schools all over America.
     
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    I agree in this case. It is as dumb as blaming the gun for what the killer does with it.
     
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    No Betsy DeVos does know much about the education systems or public schools and she is a proponent of vouchers forprivete school, secular or religious.
     
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    Funds for schools ought to be both non partisan and also secular. Meaning even religious schools get the same funds.
     
  23. AmericanNationalist

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    Because A: We can't control the amount of arms in this country. That time has passed no matter how much feel-good legislation you pass(there's also that constitutional thing, but let's just focus on the sheer improbability of gaining possession of more guns then there are citizens in this country.) And then B: You can control whether you put kids in a position where they can roam unsupervised for something like this to happen.

    It's not even a conservative thing. It's common sense VS the feels. Common sense wins.
     
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    Religious schools in many lcalities do get some government funding supposedly for non religious activities.
     
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    yeah, probably not a good time for me to be making jokes of our President on this thread, course the entire thread is kinda sad and disrespectful of the deceased child

    so I will leave the thread saying prayers and good thoughts to the family and friends
     
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