Trump Pulls US Out Of Iran Deal

What a joke of a post. A post which fails to address any of the central points made followed by demonization, insults and ignorance - even of your own links.

Since you failed to post anything from your links (a violation of Forum policy but what ever) I will post from your links for you.

"Nevertheless, distrust between Tehran and the group’s members also appears to have prevented the two sides from developing a closer working relationship. Documents recovered during the raid on Osama bin Laden’s Abbottabad compound in Pakistan in May 2011 show the relationship was “fraught with difficulties,” as described by the Combating Terrorism Center (CTC) report Letters from Abbottabad: Bin Laden Sidelined published on 3 May 2012. According to the report, “references to Iran [in the documents] show that the relationship is not one of alliance, but of indirect and unpleasant negotiations over the release of detained jihadis and their families, including members of Bin Laden’s family. The detention of prominent Al-Qaeda members seems to have sparked a campaign of threats, taking hostages and indirect negotiations between Al- Qaeda and Iran that have been drawn out for years"

Your buddy El Saud on the other hand.

https://mideastshuffle.com/2014/10/04/biden-turks-saudis-uae-funded-and-armed-al-nusra-and-al-qaeda/

Tulsi Gabbard introduced the "Stop Arming Terrorists act" - complete with 9 bipartisan signatories.

https://gabbard.house.gov/news/press-releases/gabbards-stop-arming-terrorists-act-introduced-senate

The "Left" ? Since when is Rand Paul on the Left ?

Apparently you do not disagree with equipping and training the 911 terrorist group.

Since 911 .. how has Iran supported Al Qaeda in any way remotely close to what Saudi Arabia and we have done.

In the war in Yemen .. whose side are we on and what side is Iran on. We are on the same side as Al Qaeda and Iran is fighting Al Qaeda.

Same in Syria. Iran has been fighting Al Qaeda/ISIS and other Islamist Jihadists of the same ilk aka (rebel opposition).

What was were we and our buddies in Saudi Arabia doing ? Arming and supporting Al Qaeda and the other Islamist Jihadists that led to the modern incarnation of ISIS.

 

Can you say "false dichotomy" ? Holy Carp people sometimes come up with the most mind numbing fallacy.

 

I asked you a question. You compare a 20 billion € loss with a mushed apple.

So i ask again, who compensates for that loss?

We have desire for iranian money. We have a contract with them. They want pay us 20 billion. You say we should not do it. So
where do we get the damage paid from?

 

LOL....typical Left-wing talking points & buzzwords. The fact of the 'deep state' is obvious....all you need to do is unclog your eyes and wash that brain of yours!

 

A post which fails to address any of the central points made followed by demonization, insults and ignorance - even of your own links.

Since you failed to post anything from your links (a violation of Forum policy but what ever) I will post from your links for you......snip~

Duh.....those words under the links Title headings shouldn't be able to fool your uhm so called smart powers, that easily. Which is why you have trouble with rules. Like most leftists.


"Nevertheless, distrust between Tehran and the group’s members also appears to have prevented the two sides from developing a closer working relationship.....snip~


Developing a closer relationship means they have a relationship. That should have been the clue in for ya.


Oh were you going for the Libertarian tactic and Rand Paul? If so why didn't you learn the central theme of that philosophy about Justice. The problem with Libertarians is so many lean left. Look up Larry Elder he is Libertarian that has been in the publics eye for 30 years and he leans to the Right. Note the difference with those libertarians that lean left.


State Department: Iran Supports Al Qaeda, Taliban

“In 2011,” the State Department’s report reads, “Iran remained unwilling to bring to justice senior AQ members it continued to detain, and refused to publicly identify those senior members in its custody.” Similar language was included in previous State Department reports. But that is not all there is to the Iran-AQ relationship.

Iran “also allowed AQ members to operate a core facilitation pipeline through Iranian territory, enabling AQ to carry funds and move facilitators and operatives to South Asia and elsewhere.”

Benjamin was referring to the Treasury Department’s July 2011 designation of a terrorist network headed by an al Qaeda operative known as Yassin al Suri. That network operates “under an agreement between al Qaeda and the Iranian government," according to Treasury. In December 2011, the Treasury and State Departments announced a $10 million bounty for information leading to al Suri’s capture. That reward is one of the highest offered for any terrorist. Obama administration officials noted at the time that al Suri is “working in support of al Qaeda with the support of the Government of Iran.”

Al Suri’s Iran-based network has been in operation since at least 2005. Seven years later, according to the State Department’s latest report, it is still operational. Al Suri’s network has facilitated the movement of terrorists around the globe, including an al Qaeda cell slated to take part in a foiled 2010 plot to launch Mumbai-style attacks in Europe.

In February of this year, the Treasury Department highlighted the support Iran’s Ministry of Intelligence and Security (MOIS) provides to al Qaeda and its Iraqi affiliate in a separate designation. The “MOIS has facilitated the movement of al Qaeda operatives in Iran and provided them with documents, identification cards, and passports,” according to Treasury. In addition, the MOIS has “provided money and weapons to al Qaeda in Iraq (AQI)...and negotiated prisoner releases of AQI operatives.”.....snip~


https://www.weeklystandard.com/thomas-joscelyn/state-department-iran-supports-al-qaeda-taliban


Looks like this answers that question about AQ and Iran. You can google up the Treasury and the State Dept PDF's on it. Note the date of 2012 on this link.


Oh, and you didn't think that long winded post missed the point about you not knowing anything going on with Bin Ladens son and him becoming the face of AQ. You might want to look into how that affects the Z Man.


Btw, Blame BO the peep and Hillary. With that Friends of Syria BS they were running.

 

Try again....you are the one looking for some Moral Equivalency. So I obliged you with one. Sometimes I get a chuckle out those that think the US is the Moral Authority for the planet.

Now stay focused on your defending the Iranians. As that is what youre about. Not the Saud. Who gets no pass on anything they did with terrorists.

 

Unfortunately beliefs are not enough, and nothing is looking, walking, or quacking like obstruction.

 

No, thanks. Lessons have been learned.

 

President Lardass Fatgut is probably not a member of this forum so your disciplinary posts are only clutter for those looking for some quality responses. Leftists would call your posts 'body shaming' but I'd just call them a waste of space.

 

You might have a better analogy if Trump had seriously threatened to murder Mexicans or wipe Mexico from the map, and there would likely be an international stir in the world if that was to happen. But it happens regularly to Israel yet many remain unconcerned. Seems they just don't like Jews.

While we know there are 'good' Muslims and 'bad' Muslims observing the difference between them is difficult for any non Muslim to understand, as is asking which branch they belong to when crossing the border. They are all, perhaps unfortunately, just Muslims.

 

None of anything you posted shows any significant support for Al Qaeda that even comes close to the support given to Al Qaeda by Saudi Arabia and BoPeep. That was the initial point made- and it is still the point - a point which you initially baulked at but have seemed to have found the correct path .. .which is good.

Don't diss my long winded/ plethora of evidence which supports my claim - because clearly you needed to be better informed. You should be thanking me for informing you rather than complaining.

Obama's Son is a nothing burger because he has not committed a terrorist act .. and clearly we are not going to be letting him into the country anytime soon. Calling for "death to America" is not illegal in Iran ... no surprise there and it is a legitimate complaint given the number of innocent Muslims we kill - or are a party to killing on a regular basis - along with our massive support for Islamist Terrorists who hate Iran (because they are Shia) and Saudi Arabia ... the number 1 State sponsor of terrorism on the Planet - a nation who has hate for Christians and Jews as part of the school curriculum.

Trump continues to be a shill for the Establishment (same as Obama was). We still fight along side Al Qaeda in Yemen and are party to a blockade which is causing a massive humanitarian crisis in Yemen (which is why the Mainstream media avoids covering the Yemen war .. a war that we have been fighting for almost 3 years)

 

What have I defended Iranians for - Mr. Strawman - have you nothing but fallacy and demonization to contribute.

I criticize the hypocrisy of being in bed with the #1 state sponsor of Terror - and being a huge supporter of Terror - while pointing the finger at Iran - who, while being no cherub, is not even close to the level that Saud is at (or us for that matter) and has in fact been fighting the Terrorists in Syria as opposed to our Establishment wonks who have been arming and supporting the Terrorists.

If you have no problem with using our Tax dollars to arm and support the 911 terrorist group .. you are welcome to your opinion. This does not change the abject hypocrisy equation.

 

"Deep-state?" You guys are paranoid. Sheesh.

 

Before you leave tell about your Ferrari and the hot mistress who drives it around ?

 

Its real

And its not about to let the voters tell it what to do

 

C'mon man....even a blind person can see the nefarious working behind the scenes....the leaks from the FBI alone should have pointed you in that direction. I'm betting that you are not stupid, and simply saying such unbelievable things because that's what your side has indoctrinated you to think!

 

So, you would take issue with Trump's name-calling? (Be careful--you may be cut from the herd if you criticize the ego maniac in the White House.)

 

We overlook the impact of Iran's terrorist sponsorship in the region. I doubt any of the established governments are pleased with Iran's efforts to promote Islamic fundamentalism through armed insurgencies or terrorism. Moreover, the EU has a great interest in stemming the flow of refugees fleeing the region as Iran tries to promote fundamentalism.

 

You can try and dismiss what the State Dept and Treasury Dept has down. It doesn't change the fact that Iran was giving them assistance and Support. Nor does it change up that reality.

Link up that the Saud is the #1 State Sponsor of terrorism. As most know Iran is.

Wrong we don't fight along side with AQ in Yemen. Link up US troops on the ground in Yemen fighting alongside with AQ.

 

You just got done defending the Iranians while trying to state the Saud is the #1 Sponsor of Terror. Despite the US and its Allies saying its Iran.

So your argument is that the US sponsors those who sponsor terrorism. Like the UK, France, Germany, Russia, China, and all the top dogs on the planet. So the US you condemn more for doing what everybody else is doing. Thinking that means something in the area of politics.

Oh you criticize humans and their hypocrisy. Yet cannot show any humans that aren't hypocrites. How redundant. Did you have some higher life form than humans that aren't hypocrites that you can use as a model for the moral philosophy?

 

You shouldn't be doing business with terrorists. You are gonna have to chalk that 20B up to the game. You lost this time.

 

So it’s okay to disrespect people who name-call?

 

No, it looks like you lost. Lufthansa said they will take the aircrafts and cancel ordered Boeing aircrafts. The new Boeing 777 was even developed for Lufthansa demands but Lufthansa skips this order to Airbus A350-1000.

Looks like we found a solution. Thats the positive aspect when your national carrier has the government behind.

 

Well America has already put pressure on Europe to follow it's lead... (refer Sobo's thread on the topic)

Trump is just fundraising for the Republicans so they can try to maintain their majority (or at least a presence at this stage) in the House, Adelson signed a cheque for $30 million days after Trump tore up the agreement, so this was Israels doing after all.

 

As paranoid as leftists are about Donald Trump?