Trump Pulls US Out Of Iran Deal

Goethe died while Ludwig I was the king of Bavaria. Nice try.

 

The syrians that run away from Germany, run to Turkey.

What we want is a deal with Assad. That way we can ship them directly there.

 

What about nuclear Israel? What about Saudi Arabia, that invested money in the nuclear programm in Pakistan and basically have access to nuclear weapons?
These talks about nuclear Iran- only for stupid people, US needs there oil, so it tries by all means make a coup there and get contracts for the oil.

 

Dude you have one problem. You come from a nation without history and no ethnic background. You are incapable to udnerstand how a nation thinks thats based on ethnicity like most European nations do.

German people exist since roughly 6000 years and shape Europe. German culture. German language. What you talk about are form of states.

If i follow your logic Russia exists since 1991.

Relations between Germans and Iranians are hundreds of years old. Thats a simple fact. First contact between Germans and Iranians was infact 1900 years ago.

Goethe wrote a poem about German and Iranian friendship, long before the 2nd Reich was formed. Thats the mainreason why the iranian president visited Weimar to celebrate the German / Iranian friendship. Iran even had a german empress.

Iran never in history betrayed Germany. Iran always sticked to the contracts we have. There are german schools in Iran.I have more trust in Iran than to USA.

If we depend on help, i have no doubt that Iran would help us without blink of an eye.

We signed a treaty with Iran and we stand for our signature.

For americans its no big thing to break their words. Honor and loyality are no values there. But for Germans they are.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Hudaybiyyah
In the Quran, Muslims are allowed to break their words and agreements with non Muslims.
I have nothing against the Persians - BUT I do not trust the Ayatulaas !!

 

No, cancelling the major powers agreement at this time was a mistake. Iran is faced with a stark choice of modernizing their society if they don't want to become an economic backwater, and they need to act within a decade. I think we should have continued pressuring Iran over its actions in the region.

It isn't a choice between Obama's arguably failed approach and Trump, just like Obama wasn't a binary option to Bush's failed effort. I think the Middle East needs a stable, sensible American policy that in the shorter term re-establishes the strategic balance between Sunni and Shia, but the the longer term tells both Muslim solitudes they must modernize their societies or risk being left behind economically by emerging nations in Asia, Africa, and South America.

 

Pay Luftstana to fly them to Damascus

I cant defend the US intervention in Syria

That was a bad decision by obama and hillary clinton that I did not support

 

World News
May 13, 2018 / 4:01 AM / Updated 6 minutes ago
Rouhani says Iran may remain part of nuclear accord

DUBAI (Reuters) - President Hassan Rouhani said on Sunday that Iran would remain committed to the 2015 nuclear deal if its interests were protected, while his foreign minister hoped the pact could be redesigned without Washington as a member.

The U.S. withdrawal from the accord on Tuesday was a “violation of morals”, Rouhani said in remarks carried by state television.

“If the remaining five countries continue to abide by the agreement, Iran will remain in the deal despite the will of America,” he said.

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...y-remain-part-of-nuclear-accord-idUSKCN1IE0BY

= Lost US credibility and influence in Iran and potentially elsewhere. Thanks Trump, you blithering idiot of a so-called president.

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Bolton: U.S. sanctions 'possible' on European firms over Iran

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - White House National Security adviser John Bolton on Sunday said U.S. sanctions on European companies that do business with Iran were “possible, but Secretary of State Mike Pompeo said he remained hopeful Washington and its allies could strike a new nuclear deal with Tehran.

Bolton’s comments, in an interview with CNN’s “State of the Union, struck a more hawkish note than Pompeo’s, who was interviewed on “Fox News Sunday.”

“It’s possible. It depends on the conduct of other governments,” Bolton told CNN when asked whether the United States might impose sanctions on European companies that continue to business with Iran.

Pompeo said he was “hopeful in the days and weeks ahead we can come up with a deal that really works, that really protects the world from Iranian bad behavior, not just their nuclear program, but their missiles and their malign behavior as well.”

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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...ble-on-european-firms-over-iran-idUSKCN1IE0M9

!! Kiss the dollar empire good-bye if this keeps up. Sanctioning European companies? More loss of influence connected with loss of cordial bilateral relations as Europe turns on our stupid asses for trying to bully and manipulate them in our typical overbearing fashion.

 

To fly them there we need a deal with Assad. That include Iran.

Its funny. You want something from us. But you Offer nothing. Why dont you lend us your airforce Transport Machines, Accept Assad and we will Drop Iran.

 

Well you suggest something that will greatly drag US into a whole new mess, balance between the Shia and Sunni ? you probably make them both your enemies, I agree it sounds good, good intentions and all but you forget there are other powers in the world aside of US and they have their own agenda's as well, its a 4 dimensional game, safest to go with the flow IMO, unpredictable events will happen anyway. but I like your optimism

 

I must say both this and the Mexico wall thing do sound to me as part of Trump plan to increase US domestic productions, he did say all these things since he ran to office.

 

None of this will boost domestic production. None of it.

 

One of us is a historian and it ain't you.

The German people, yes. The American people are esentially English. But Germany didn't exist, nor did the United States.

No, Russia did exist before 1991, and before 1917.

Germans, yes; Germany, no. Germans were part of the Holy Roman Empire.

You trust the mullahs? Egads.

Iran help Germany? You're incredibly naïve.

 

You misquoted me.

I didnt write that

 

That is becoming a rather large problem around here....individuals attributing comments to others that they did not write. I myself have wasted time arguing with nuts who have tried to put words into my mouth....it seems that the tactic is wide spread!

 

that has happened to me more than enough times as right wingers prefer to read into rather than just read what I have written

 

That would be wrong as well, Mr_Truth......I will watch so that I don't slip-up....hopefully we all can avoid the temptation!

 

As i said you have no no clue. Iranians fought in our army and were Always loyal. I trust them more than anericans.

The HRE was Germany. Its full title was holy Roman Empire of German Nation. If you dont know this, you are No historian

 

No, American people are just uneducated about their real ethnic backgrounds. We just don't care that much. There is some truth to "American Exceptionalism", and Sobo encapsulated it perfectly.

Culturally speaking, the only properly "English" Americans are the Greater New Englanders. Transformations of urban Dutch, Scots-Irish, and southern German cultures are otherwise prevalent among most Americans.

Germany has existed for millennia, just has China and Iran have, whatever their political situation.

 

Israel has nuclear weapons but has never used them

That could change however if iran goes nuclear and uses theirs

If a fullscale conventional war breaks out between nuclear

iran and nuclear Israel the tempation to nuke one side before they do will be almost irresistible

As for the Saudis having the option to obtain nuclear weapons from pakistan thats much different from actually having them ready to fire

 

Two of my "neighbors" here have genetically proven ancestors, which were buried 12000 years ago, where their families still live today. The holy roman empire of German (=united) nation (today called "western word") was founded in the year 800. It ended in 1806. Afterwards the German nations were without emperor. In 1871 the Prussians had finished their conquest of the German countries. So what you call "Germany" I call normally "Prussia" or "Colonies of Prussia" and I call this emperors "the emperors of Prussia over Germany". And I call the current ambassador of the USA in Germany "colonialist".

 

If Israel has nuclear weapons, why Iran can not have? They are not worse than Israel. This is called parity. Why not in this case to demand Israel to give up their weapons?

 

We cant help you with your syrian refugee problem.

Just try not to make the same mistake in the future

As for iran if you want to be in the middle of a shooting war just keep doing what you are doing to assist them

If you want to avoid a war stop doing business with them

 

The final word on this:

 

Maybe they do, but refugees are supposed to be those who flee due to a well founded fear of persecution in their country and US intervention anywhere doesn't induce this, while the promotion of Islamic fundamentalism through terrorism certainly would.

One would reasonably expect Germany endorsed the deal Obama made because they agreed 'denuclearizing' Iran would be better for Germany, which would sensibly prefer Islamic fundamentalist totalitarians not be armed with nuclear weapons within range. Germany has woefully experienced the effects of a flood of immigrants from across the Muslim world where Islamic fundamentalism is being promoted by terrorist groups supported from Iran, Germany can imagine how things would be if additionally the refugees were fleeing nuclear detonations.

None, "bowing" to Trump will make anyone the source of ridicule, you must resist!