How do we heal the political divisions in America?

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  1. Kode

    Kode Well-Known Member

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    Since the beginning days of this new century, political divisions have exploded. I don't think I need to remind anyone on this forum of how serious it has become.

    We now have two conflicting "news" perspectives generating two conflicting political outlooks: one for the right and one for the rest of us.

    (I said it that way for a reason provided by the right. I didn't say "one for the right and one for the left" because in deference to the right, they normally refer to "MSM" as "liberal" and the enemy of sorts and they don't seem to see any "middle of the road" or balanced news sources to exist.)

    This dichotomy has produced two conflicting groups who hold fast to two conflicting outlooks with two conflicting explanations of seemingly everything. And it is my opinion that it is the news sources themselves who have created and are fully responsible for this division as deep as it is.

    I don't see any possibility of any leader or activist group successfully bringing the two sides into a greater harmony and/or tolerance to heal this division. I don't see it just diminishing of its own accord.

    Since there is one truth for any situation or condition, the division is known on both sides to be the result of the dissemination of inaccurate, misleading, or downright false information by the news sources, and believed by the audience. And now it comes out that social media has been used by Russian intelligence to sow discord by deepening this developing division.

    So the question is, how do we turn this around? What must be done to correct this? We will always have disagreements. I long for the days when we had sane, rational opposition in the news from two sensible sides. But this is just too much. How can these divisions be healed?
     
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    tecoyah Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    This will not be "Fixed" in my lifetime and will likely take quite some time to fade. The damage has been done with Obamas election bringing it to boil. The Christian White Male is losing his majority in our population and is striking out in fear and anger. They began with debasing and delegitimizing the Black President, then destroying the female before she could do damage, now champion an Anti Christian angry white old man as savior. Until the generation in power either die off or are removed by the next one we get what they asked for.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    As long as right wing media finds a receptive audience with its message of hatred, intolerance, and disinformation (not to mention lunatic conspiracy theories) there is little hope of Americans uniting for a common purpose as we typically do when presented with an external threat.
     
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    Trying to be completely non biased.....While there are instances of various news agency's being demonstrably wrong on an irrefutable point of fact, that is the exception rather than the rule. There is very little black or white in the world of politics, instead you have mostly shades of gray. With that being the case, I disagree with the notion that there is "one truth" for most situations. In that way, for the most part, neither side is lying, rather they are explaining various topics from THEIR perspective. Take the economy for example. There are probably a thousand different economic indicators, and at any given time, both sides can cherry pick only the indicators that tell the story that THEY want to tell. One side can say that the stock market is up, and unemployment is low. The other side can say that growth is low, and wages are down. Neither side is lying, they are merely presenting the ACTUAL FACTS that best express their political spin. Both sides point to the other and say "you just dont like facts". For the most part, there is very little lying in mainstream news sources. There is only extreme spin which cherry picks the "facts" that paint their political ideology in the best light.
     
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    the only way out is through. intensify the conflict until there's a winner.
     
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  6. Andrew Jackson

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    Good insight.

    Unless America can figure out a way to stop those who support the Current Administration from believing every ridiculous conspiracy (that comes down from the RW Fever Swamp), America WON'T be able to "heal" the "political divide".

    When you have a hard-core of about 1/4 of America (about 80 Million People), who are willing to believe that "1+1=3" because Trump tells them it is so--It is impossible to "heal political divisions" when you have millions of citizens who won't even accept the fact that "1+1=2".

    Event:

    CNN Reports that "1+1=2"

    Trump claims that "1+1=3"

    RW Response:

    CNN is wrong, "1+1=3" because Trump said so.

    ___________

    In any event, voting out Trump (as soon as possible) is a must.:salute:
     
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    And our side says the same thing only we use leftist instead of right wing...

    Great example, thank you!
     
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    I can hardly wait!
     
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    Bow To The Robots Banned at Members Request

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    Except CNN rarely reports that 1+1=2. And I'll say the same about Fox.
     
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    Well when you have a percentage of snotty ass people demeaning a people that feed, power and general work from sun up to sun down their whole lives AND own the electoral College you are never going to soften their opinion of your party or any agenda you would like them to consider.. Face it man, the left are condescending people that think anyone not on their team is a redneck, trailer trash, lunatic bible thumping deplorable..

    Ya, the left really know how to win the hearts and minds ;)
     
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    We will eventually weather this one out & Cohen sure is helping--unintentionally,but-----
     
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    So, here's the real disconnect I think. There are those of us who understand and appreciate the value of limited government, and restrictions on government the protect the rights and liberties of the people. Then, there are those, on the left, who don't.

    The argument is as old as the nation itself. The steady erosion of the vestiges of limited government being the catalyst that is now driving the dissatisfaction and the motivation to unwind said erosion. Those who favor the erosion just insist that placing any possible choice in the hands of the government then produces their intended result of a complacent, docile public. A public from whom they leech off of in order to survive. All in the name of their "better judgment".

    The failure of those who are the leeches in our society is that the actual folks being leeched from paid attention long enough to recognize that they were, in fact, being leeched from. And then, worse, they started to recognize the structural framework through which their liberties, freedoms, and future prosperity were being threatened by these frameworks.

    What has to be the answer, at least for this nation, is to find our way back to a government that effectively governs without unduly trodding all over the rights and freedom of the citizens. I doubt the left will ever find their way back. In their quest to dictate to the nation, and the world, their vaunted status as the political transnational elite, they have forgotten the most basic tenant of politics. There are way more little folk than their are those hiding behind the very tall walls.
     
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    Ah the fun of leftist pipe dreams.
     
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    The following are examples of why it will not be resolved until it is resolved forcefully.

    The following example is what it should be about.

    There are forces at work that do not want this resolved. It makes them money, or gives them power or control, and they do not want to give that up. We the people are the only ones that can resolve this, but people like the bad examples I indicated will not allow that to happen.
     
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    Give me an example of a lunatic conspiracy theory that was widely adopted among liberals as Drumpf's birtherism was among conservatives.
     
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    Boiled down to its basic foundation that is little more than the same tired leftist lament we've been hearing since Ike twice beat Adlai Stevenson like a drum. Why won't those bastards listen to us? If you could eat condescension the left could feed the world without tractors.
     
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    put all the dems on a boat and ship them out.
     
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    The Trumpkin will see two opposing sides.

    Everyone else sees only one side, people who don't support Trump and then a whole slew of utter cretins who don't know who the fk they are and will never find out but who think they have valid opinions because their social media status shoves dopamine up their virtual jackholes.

    They're a contendah!
     
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    That's one right there every liberal on this board believes it was widely adopted when in fact no more than a handful ever bought into it.
     
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    Trump colluded with Russia. Need any other ridiculous conspiracy theories embraced by Liberals?
     
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    Lol, you’re a self identified socialist/communist (forgot which one, but it doesn’t matter). That you can try and pretend to make a centrist type argument and call for unity is really hilarious.
     
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    Most of the divisions between ordinary human beings are contrived, and could be easily resolved.
    But big money and political power is the reward for every ruling political class that encourages political division.
     
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    First I think that communism/socialism whatever you want to call it has infiltrated the American liberal Democrats to the point where they're not little anymore they are authoritative would be dictators.

    They can stop pushing for this backward nonsense and American liberalists will stop fighting them.

    It is a poison to our Republic and it cannot be tolerated.

    So if they are willing to give it up and just stick to liberalist Freedom we would be good. Then we could focus on the problems with the right.
     
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    Ah,were just getting to the fun stuff, taped conversations & agents putting together Cohen's shredded documents---the storms a coming----
     
  25. Andrew Jackson

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    For sure.

    Germany survived Hitler, America can certainly survive Trump.
     
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