Former CIA director: Trump's news conference "nothing short of treasonous"

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    With any luck, the DNC, et al, will take this up as their mantra for 2020.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    First let me assure I delight in reading the off the wall tripe put out by the usual suspects. Your defense of a guy that voted for a communist is laughable. I get your hate for Trump. You have started hundreds of threads all of which graphically point this out to everyone.
    That said,
    In your mind tell us all what Trump could have said to Putin that would not put you over the top full on bonkers outraged? "I quit" is not an answer because that gives you Pence who is a true conservative Republican.
    Your turn,
     
  3. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's no evidence that the theft and release of DNC emails had any effect on influencing american voters. They just talked about it a lot. There's no evidence that Comey reopening the Clinton investigation a week before the election had any effect on the voter decisions,because according to you everyone had already made up their minds. All the ads and all the fake news and all the trolls doing what trolls do also had no effect on anyone's perceptions of reality.

    Amazing how impervious to all that messaging, the electorate is according to you. you should tell P&G their $4.6 Billion in marketing and advertising is a waste of time. Apparetly there is no evidence to suggest that any of it actually works on influencing buyer decisions. Think of the exec bonuses they could earn with eliminating such a wasteful expense. Big commish opportunity for you.
     
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    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No but it seems you have. You offer up conjecture and then get upset when others use to highlight your use of it in the first place.

    Makes perfect sense.
     
  5. Jonsa

    Jonsa Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Huh? WTF does saying two words about Canada have to do with his performance? Oh right nothing.

    Are you saying your Dear Leader is a troll and all his incompetence, mendacity and lack of ethics is merely his troll face?

    Dig a little deeper, China can't be much farther.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Why would the DNC e-mails have any influence on American voters in the first place?
     
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    I'm not the one standing on "how do you know they weren't colluding?!?!?!" as compelling evidence of collusion.

    When Mueller comes back with no charges/accusations of collusion against Trump or anyone in his campaign, will you admit you were wrong, will you riot/burn/loot, or will you shoot up a baseball practice?
     
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    We are still waiting for any actual evidence that campaign members colluded with Russia or that there was any alteration of any votes caused by Russia. There are a lot of fanatical beliefs, but no actual evidence.
     
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    And what you were using them for then, are just as powerful today! I laughed at the "Turn On" shows the real bullshit in this conversation, turn on, LMFAO :)

    Anyway :)

    Quite a impressive resume there but the simple fact you don't have a clue what you are talking about just make you look, well, disingenuous! I'm sure to those at the level of your expertise it all sounds so professional, to be sure :) But to me, it's just a silly bunch of background history in a feeble attempt to detract you were wrong all along :)

    LMAO :) WOW Jonsa, did you even read that before you posted it :) RAM has all to do with everything "DATA" being moved on a system :) STOP Jonsa you are making yourself look silly bro :) Clearly you have no concept of how a computer works :)

    And all this below? Well this is you praying to whatever to detract from the fact you haven't a clue what a Proxy is and even less how redundancy works :)

     
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    is that why congress still approves of the investigation and has no plans of stopping it.
     
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    no jonsa is correct. the only thing ram would be used for is running the software performing the copying.
     
  12. ButterBalls

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    And he effected you and Canada how Jonsa? To me you and Trump are no difference if Troll is your preferred descriptive! Sorry man I just see how this effects you or Canada on a personal level? Especially to the level you're losing you mud over the whole thing! Last I checked lil Trudy and the Queenie was making policy for the Royal Horsemen

    ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    I understand that it is possible to recover old information from hard disks sectors that have been overwritten which is why disk scrubbers overwrite each sector multiple times.
     
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    Personally, I use a well-stoked firepit.
     
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    Nope ram stores data that the hard drive can't immediately write :) Granted things have changed some with SSD drives but BUS speeds are still bottle neck.. IF your system didn't utilize RAM STORAGE while moving files it would be so slow and bogged down it would only be able to do very few things at once! RAM it where DATA is held while other processes are complete, and transferring data is a biggie!
     
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    Yep!
     
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    There is a way around that :) Drives only mark blocks and sectors of the drive as "Available" they don't actually remove the data that occupies those sectors! BUT if you were to set up a two partition of same size and kept one full of say songs and such and set the other as your designated storage drive then if need be you could simply overwrite it with the songs and such and all that was is now all that is transferred ;)

    And yer right :)
     
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    no, and with linux systems, the hard drive is used as ram. you are referring to buffers and dma. imaging software can take advantage of the i/o bus and not bother with ram. any ram used would be by the imaging software.
     
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    yes that is one method of such type of scrubber. when a bit is set or magnetized, it will a signature so that even resetting that bit once, a closer look at the magnetized bit would still reveal a signature. by repeating the set and reset multiple times, it is guess work to determine what the original magnetized state was.
     
  20. Jonsa

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    A mirror image of the disk is sufficient for that purpose. Recovering a deleted file isn't "reading deeper into the magnetic media to recover what was overwritten". That's not how the media works. Recovering deleted files is about broken links. Commerical erasure merely wipes the address not the content of the file. It sits there until the cpu requires the space. A mirror image will enable that recover to take place.

    The only way to ensure that all data is removed is to do a full disk reformat from a bootable source. That way you can also erase all of the reserved and hidden files (OS requirements) that commercial erasers cannot .

    So there ain't no need whatsoever to have the physical box if you have its complete digital image.
     
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    As a nationalist of suspected color I can tell that you have no clue how the AMERICAN WORLD ORDER is effected by American domestic politics. After 70 years of fostering economic interdependence and supply chain integration and as America's largest most strategic trading partner, I guess as a Canadian citizen we have no stake in the blundering of your President and the unfathomable willful ignorance of his rhetoric.

    As a close military ally with an integrated Continental defense strategy and fellow signatory of NATO who has also spent blood and treasure in upholding Article 5 in Afghanistan we have no vested interest whatsoever in your Commander in Chief's unprecedented attacks on allies while butt kissing our primary adversaries.
     
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    Well, Congress investigates a lot of things. The question is what evidence is found. Russia hacks; we know that, but, so far, there is no evidence that Russia had any significant--or any--effect on the last presidential election.
     
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    Why not it seems to work for your dear leader.
     
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    If you can’t indict a president, he can’t be convicted of a crime. So obviously he can be impeached for any crime he’s accused of.
     
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    I agree that so far there is no evidence of campaign members directly involved in cooperating and coordinating with Russians. That is because Meuller doesn't leak what he's got, as the recent russian military hackers indictments clearly demonstrate.

    AS to alteration of votes, there isn't any evidence they were successful in their known election system hacking to change votes, although they did steal voter registration rolls and various communications. But altering a vote is not the same thing as influencing a vote.

    Now as far a russian efforts to influence the vote, there is no doubt about it, for those of us who actually understand how to influence a "prospect" into making a favorable decision. There is a dedicated global industry generating a couple hundred billion dollars a year doing exactly that. And you can bet your bottom dollar that the release of the DNC emails influenced the "buying decision" of some significant number of undecided voters. You can also bet the farm that the fake news and the trolls promoting it to both sides also effected peoples decision, particularly because of the russians brilliant yet diabolical weaponization of social media.

    Now, you can choose to drink the koolaid since dunning kruger is an epidemic in trumpland, but those with some actual direct experience and knowlege of how this stuff all works, know its vacuous bullshit.
     
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