Dems Refuse to Vote On Record for THEIR OWN "ABOLISH ICE" Bill

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  1. Zorro

    Zorro Well-Known Member

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    Democrats for crime

    Only 18 of the 185 Democrats House members voting on the measure yesterday supported having an Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency. This is further proof that Democrats favor the violent crime and drugs that ravage urban America.

    We know this because ICE is rounding up some very savage criminals.

    From ICE: "ICE seeks information leading to the arrest of an MS-13 associate wanted on sex trafficking charges."

    The man traffics minors as prostitutes. It no longer is hyperbole. Democrats oppose his arrest.

    From ICE: "EL PASO, Texas — Special agents with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) and agents with U.S. Border Patrol arrested 18 alien smugglers and seized cash, vehicles and more than 1,000 lbs. of marijuana last month in a joint effort.

    "Special agents assigned to HSI El Paso’s human smuggling group and Border Patrol agents, who are part of HSI’s Border Enforcement Security Task Force (BEST), worked together to identify, locate and arrest smugglers operating alien smuggling organizations in southern New Mexico and the El Paso area."

    From ICE: "NEWARK, N.J. — U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO) Newark Field Office arrested 37 individuals during a five-day operation that concluded Friday, as part of the agency’s ongoing public safety efforts. The operation targeted criminal aliens who were previously incarcerated at the Middlesex County Jail (MCJ), and who were subsequently released to the community by MCJ, without honoring the ICE detainer or advising ICE of their release. The operation also targeted other criminal aliens residing in Middlesex County.

    "Of those arrested, 16 subjects had been previously released by MCJ without honoring the ICE detainer and 78% had prior criminal convictions or pending criminal charges."

    New Jersey is a Democrat-run state that shielded these criminals from justice. This is the antithesis of the rule of law.

    From ICE: "DALLAS — A federal grand jury this week indicted eight MS-13 gang members on the following criminal charges: racketeering conspiracy; attempted murder in aid of racketeering; assault with a dangerous weapon in aid of racketeering; conspiracy to commit murder in aid of racketeering; and using, carrying and possessing a firearm during and in relation to a crime of violence.

    "The July 11 indictment was announced by the following agency heads: U.S. Attorney Erin Nealy Cox for the Northern District of Texas, Special Acting Assistant Attorney General John P. Cronan of the Justice Department’s Criminal Division, Special Agent in Charge Katrina W. Berger of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement’s (ICE) Homeland Security Investigations (HSI) Dallas Office, Field Office Director Marc Moore of ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO), Chief Jeff Spivey of the Irving (Texas) Police Department, Chief U. Reneé Hall of the Dallas Police Department, and District Attorney Faith Johnson of the Dallas County District Attorney’s Office."

    Democrats say they are now For the People.

    We now know who those people are. They are not American, and they are not law-abiding.

    http://donsurber.blogspot.com/2018/07/democrats-for-crime.html#more
     
  2. randlepatrickmcmurphy

    randlepatrickmcmurphy Well-Known Member

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    The only crisis at the border is children getting kidnapped by the family values party and thrown into concentration camps. Further proof that conservatives only care about fetuses but hate actual children.
     
  3. Steady Pie

    Steady Pie Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Concentration camps lmao
     
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    6 out of 10 females who travel to cross the border are raped. The solution: Secure the border.

    The solution to your fantasy concentration camps: secure the border.....

    See the pattern.

    Why are you not concerned for the females? Because it does not fit your political narrative.
     
  5. Professor Peabody

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    You're 4 years too late, Obama started this in 2014.
     
  6. Meta777

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    Any immigration solutions really need to be comprehensive.
    I think that's something a lot of folks really don't seem to get.
    This is a large and complex issue and one area where
    piecemeal approaches just aren't going to cut it.

    For those who are truly interested in finding a comprehensive compromise solution to things,
    note that there are a series of politicalforum votes going on for just that purpose:

    What is the Most Important Immigration Category Needing to be Dealt With?
    How To Enact Immigration Reform? (Undocumented Immigrants & Visa Overstays)
    How To Enact Immigration Reform? (Immigrants Wishing to Immigrate Legally)
    How To Enact Immigration Reform? (Immigrants Who've Already Achieved Legal Status)
    How To Enact Immigration Reform? (Immigration Systems, Security, & Enforcement)
    How To Enact Immigration Reform? (Foreign Outreach/Other)

    -Meta
     
  7. Professor Peabody

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    By George I think you have the answer, planned parenthood should set up abortion clinics throughout Mexico, Central America and South America.
     
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    Congress doesn't "oversee" the President. They are co-equal.
     
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    This is about as stupid as demanding the interrogator testify.
     
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    They're frauds. Actors on a stage, playing a role. When it comes time to sign their name to their script...they don't want any part of it.
     
  11. Grokmaster

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    Gosh, I guess dems are as fullacrap as we know them to be, and are willing to lie their a**es off for votes.
     
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    It’s a foolish bill. Doesn’t need abolished.

    I also don’t want federal LEO busting in and taking over from the locals unless requested.

    Sheriffs are elected and expected to serve and protect their communities. If the Fed’s show up, they should automatically be placed under the authority of the Sherriff.
     
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  13. BestViewedWithCable

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    no no no they are fools, its more than just how they look.
     
  14. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What is the message going to be? I'm sure Ocasio will get back in line like a good dog since this is being thwarted though. She was dumb to have even thought of it. It would have hurt dems real bad if they went for this.
     
  15. PrincipleInvestment

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    What they are is exactly as disingenuous as they've been painted. Their DACA amnesty sham is another great example of their shameless, insincere pandering.
     
  16. Thirty6BelowZero

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    The "Vote for me because I HATE Trump" slogan won't get them very far with anyone outside of the far left.
     
  17. Grokmaster

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    That includes Gillibrand , Warren, Sanders plus Illegalocrat members of the House Blumenauer, Espailatt, Jayapal, McGovern, Pocan, Valezquez, Perpetual Idiot De Blasio, and (so far) Illegalocrat candidates Nixon ans Ocasio-Cortez.

    Their INDIVIDUAL CALLS to ABOLISH ICE are quoted in the link provided below:

    Democrats calling for ICE to be abolished include Kirsten Gillibrand, Elizabeth Warren and others


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201...n-gillibrand-elizabeth-warren-and-others.html



    And then, in the US Senate, in addition to the above listed Illegalocrats, there are these, and ALL OF THEM involved in the Illegals over Americans platform , who will be REPEATEDLY exposed to voters in their districts before the midterms, in addition to their seeking to take back the tax cuts, allow unchecked immigration , including from terrorist S**THOLE nations, etc. :


    Senate Democrats block resolution supporting ICE

    http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/397707-senate-democrats-block-resolution-supporting-ice
     
  18. Rhym3pays

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    This call to abolish ICE is nothing new -- don't believe me? ask the heritage foundation

    https://qz.com/1316098/what-is-ice-...ry-of-us-immigration-and-customs-enforcement/

    From the article:
    In 2004, the conservative Heritage Foundation suggested ICE be merged out of existence, by combining it with the new border force, Customs and Border Protection.

    ...but maybe you feel the Heritage foundation are just a bunch of whiny libs -- so how about we read what the DHS Inspector General said about ICE in its 175 page report:

    "We could not find any documentation that fully explains the rationale and purpose behind ICE’s composition. One senior official offered the following explanation…ICE was established with not a focus on supporting a particular mission, but on building an institutional foundation large enough to justify a new organization."

    Look, if you like ICE because you think they are really sticking it to those dirty illegals, fine -- just understand the history surrounding ICE and how opposition to them was bi-partisan at one time because of the recognition that they were not doing what they were originally created to do.
     
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  19. Grokmaster

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    He is "being held accountable" for a booming economy, lowest unemployment in memory, deregulation, ending the onerous Obamacare mandate, working to SECUURE OUR BORDERS, and in adidition to NOT GIVING PUTIN CONTROL of 20% of our uranium reserves , being TOUGHER ON PUTIN THAN ANY PRIOR POTUS since REAGAN, despite the TDS left's frothy-mouthed hysteria over his not following their "approved script" at a press conference.

    Silly deflection from the EMBARRASSING TRUTH (for you), AGAIN, duly noted....
     
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  20. Thirty6BelowZero

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    Wasn't Obama lying when Wilson said that? I forgot all about that lol. I believe that's when obama was saying you could keep your doctor or something. Yeah, the left flipped their crap over that. Now look at em.
     
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    Yes...it was BLASPHEMY to the Obamites….
     
  22. Thirty6BelowZero

    Thirty6BelowZero Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You might make a coherent post, too.
     
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    I think you underestimate Ms Cortez commitment. She's teamed up with Bernie Sanders and is doubling down. Remember Pelosi saying we needed to blindly pass ACA to discover what it the bill had in store? Ocasio Cortez thinks democratic socialism is exactly the same sort of proposition.
     
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    OOOPH. That's some serious drama bro.
     
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    I hope so, because if she continues to roll with this ridiculousness, she'll seal the deal for us this year and next. Dems are split on this and Bernie (obviously).
     
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