Guns & Stand Your Ground victory. Got a problem with that? video included.

The one illegally occupying the established parking spot was not executed. The one who made the conscious, deliberate decision to engage in felony battery was shot in self defense, because he decided to initiate physical violence when it was not warranted or justified.

 

Then you have no problem with people defending themselves with deadly force when subjected to deadly force.

 

I didn’t state it. But after seeing all the comments. I believe there are those in this thread who think it’s “cool”.
Oops....I stated such further.
Don’t ever tell me what to do.

 

The petulant child routine is wearing thin. The opinion of yourself is wrong. Get over it.

 

Even if he thought harm was about to be inflicted upon his family?

 

Then do not engage in illegal behavior that would warrant being addressed by someone who is familiar with what the law does and does not say.

 

He is not there to uphold the law he could have called the police or informed management at the store.

He CHOSE to engage. There was zero threat to his life until he actively went looking for confrontation.

 

If the guy had stepped TOWARDS the guy on the ground I would be applauding the shooter. But that ain’t the case. Pure chicken ****.

 

The belief on the part of yourself is wrong. Not simply factually incorrect, but straight out wrong. Repeating it over and over does not make it correct, or lend it any greater credibility than the first time it was stated. Do not repeat it further unless you wish to be reported for deliberately trying to derail the thread through the introduction of blatantly flamebaiting material.

 

Telling someone that their behavior is illegal is not engagement, or looking for a confrontation.

 

You typically don't step towards the guy making sure his sights are lined up before pulling the trigger.

Like I've told you about 10 times, it doesn't matter if he didn't continue to press the attack. All that matters is that he committed an attack that could have killed or seriously injured the guy.

There is no 5 second rule in self defense.

 

The guy that did the shoving was aggressively moving toward the man on the ground and another guy was hurrying to the conflict till the gun came out. I think the guy would have take a beating.

 

How is it derailing? I’m not preventing anyone from continuing their conversations. And what I said fits the thread subject. And YOU are the one who brought it up again after I told you I wasn’t referring to anyone in this thread. On top of that you gave me a threatening ultimatum. Yet do you see me threatening to report you? Grow a pair will ya?

 

Right, ‘could have’. But he was fine and neutralized the threat. No need to kill at that point, except for WANTING to do it. Clearly the chicken **** was looking for this to happen

 

This wasnt an execution what the hell are you talking about? This was clear as a bell self defense. The guy committed attempted murder and got a nice tasty 2nd amendment surprise. I especially love how he ran and left his girlfriend behind. Not so tough with a bullet in his lung was he? Again these jackasses are so used to violence they think they can just shove people into the concrete without repercussion. I may watch this again to put me in a good mood.

 

COnsidering the guy was older and probably handicapped, if that shove broke his hip, then **** that guy who shoved him. Care to guess the agony inflicted by breaking a hip and the chance of death from complications that NEVER should have happened if the "victim" was a rational human being?

 

Telling some one what they are doing is against the law isn’t instigation.

Sorry, violent dick head gone, better world for it.

 

Broken hips? 460,000 people die in the US from falling every year. That’s not including the extra force given by the shove. You hit your head on blacktop or a curb and there’s a good chance you’re gone. A better chance than you being killed by a firearm by about 12x

 

But what if this...what if that...
IF my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle.

 

This video caused a pretty big debate at work....let me be blunt and make clear I have no sympathy for the scum bag that would shove a older, possibly handicap person like he was shoving a 300lb defensive lineman. And I support the stand your ground policy and the castle doctrine and everything of the sort. But that split second hesitation ruined the video for me.

I guess you could say I'm Monday night quarter backing but IMHO that trigger pull was 49% he feared for his life and 51% anger.

 

I take it you didn’t bother to read the post I was quoting.

 

Because a shove does not warrant lethal force.

 

I suppose that it's possible.

 

Considering this wasn’t a lethal force situation.

 

Since the Rightwing is saying simple non-lethal shoving is a lethal force situation, next time a Trump supporter follows the President’s advice and “knocks the hell” out of some anti-Trump protestors, you would support those protestors killing the Trump supporter, yes?