Paul Hellyer Earthshaking Confession 'Four Alien Races are Here on Earth'

In Canada, Helyer is respected for his service to the country but considered a loon in retirement.

 

I do not engage in such name calling. Sorry you did that.

 

Now that is evasive. When someone makes an extraordinary claim, and the only evidence offered is a personal anecdote, then that person's credibility can and should enter the discussion. The only person to blame for his lack of credibility and his lack of a shred of evidence is himself.

 

Would you prefer "harmless eccentric"?

BTW, we Canadians love both our loons and loonies.

 

False flag is done by humans, not aliens.

 

They do have stealth technology. According to Dr. Stephen Greer, a UFO was materializing at a rendezvous location when a high-altitude 747 fired a beam weapon at it. The UFO phased out to evade the shot, and the blast of invisible energy disturbed parts of the trees in the lineup.

A NASA official at a press conference concerning space missions was answering ordinary questions until he was pressed by an increasing number of questions about supposed alien/UFO involvement. He closed that topic by saying that they could wipe out our planet in an instant if they wanted to.

They aren't going to land on the White House lawn for all the world to see.

It is apparent that Gods of the distant past such as Quetzalcoatl uplifted civilizations, but humans are too problematic on their own and undo the benefit of such assistance, although natural setbacks also contribute to putting civilizations back where they started.

 

What is to be said about a child who was recovered after being lost in the cold wilderness for several days when the child says he was fed and protected by some big furry ape-like creatures of different sizes?

In recent years a bigfoot was reported as manifesting on the ground in a light beam from a hovering UFO. Thus IMO it's premature to rely on rational exclusions; there is something strange going on. The establishment prefers that we don't get at the final nitty gritty. The FBI and the army have butted into some cases involving bigfoot sightings in National Parks and temporarily sealed off access. The creature was seen carrying and holding a missing child.

 

While it think it far more likely that UFO sightings are secret government craft, there is sure a lot of ancient references to 'people from the sky' to be coincidence. Ancient peoples couldn't know stars were other 'suns' with other planets, yet they did know, and many of them recorded that 'people from the sky' told them.

 

There are no many things wrong with that asinine anecdote!

At high altitude individual trees are nothing more than color blurs and to be able to detect that "parts of trees" were "disturbed" is ludicrous. Furthermore the WIND is often a "blast of invisible energy" that "disturbs parts of trees". Where is the evidence that the UFO "phased out"? If it was just an optical illusion that disappeared does that count as a "UFO phased out"?

 

Mental illness was unknown back then too.

 

I would simply like to remind everyone that "Ancient Aliens" is an entertainment television show, not a documentary.

 

The trees were observed at the rendezvous level. A concentrated blast is distinguishable from natural wind. The matter of evidence is whether or not Dr. Greer is onto something, whether or not disclosure conferences attempt to tackle real problems.

 

I recall seeing "Chariots of the Gods"(erich von daniken) when I was an anthropology student, I was shocked at the gross stupidity of it, incredible leaps of logic, ignorance of established facts and outright BS but many people were taken in by it...what I found really offensive was von daniken's condescension toward indigenous people, that they were too simple or stupid to have constructed the monumental constructions, only aliens could have done it!...of coarse he never asked the locals who built the edifices(clearly to stupid) he just went straight to aliens as the answer .

 

I don't think that's accurate.

 

if we were to catalogue a list of things every ancient culture guessed at they get lucky once in awhile and guess right...but that's the ultimate cherry picking because then we'd need to overlook 99.999999999% of their claims that are fantastical bs...

 

That's still SOP for The History/Aliens Channel. They never cite some marvelous construction by Europeans as proof of aliens. It's always something built by non-Europeans that just has to be the work of Aliens, being how there's no possible way that those nonwhite people could have built it themselves.

 

yup, I doubt the history channel vets the documentaries it buys for archeological or historical accuracy...

 

So now you are changing the story to try and cover up the gaping holes in it?

 

What the hell is this doing in the science section?! This should be in the conspiracy section with the fake moon landings, the 9/11 cover ups and the Illuminati.

 

Good point because a great deal of what we have from ancient cultures is wrapped up in myths and superstitions.

However sometimes the origins of those myths and superstitions are based on observations of the natural world that they could not explain which is why they came up with them instead.

Perhaps the most famous example is Sirius and the Dogon tribe mythology.

https://www.booksfact.com/technolog...-knew-about-invisible-star-around-sirius.html

While the myth of aliens has no factual evidence we do have evidence that Sirius does have a white dwarf companion star and just recently a 3rd red dwarf star was discovered.

Since this myth originates over 5000 years ago we would be foolish to make the assumption that only Sirius was visible back then. What if either of those other two stars were bright enough to be observed by the naked eye?

That would explain why it was given the name of the "Dog Star" because it resembled a man with his companion dog. That the light from the companion star dimmed to no longer be visible to the naked eye is perfectly feasible given that we have not had the capability to closely observe stars over 1000's of years with our telescopes.

 

I have noticed an ongoing attempt to discredit science in this sub forum. It is unfortunate and should be countered whenever it is observed.

 

So space exploration issues and such matters is not science? I suppose Democrats are the sole people allowed to discuss science, including all science. I see no conspiracy here.

 

I don't recall anyone mention a politcal party until you did now...Paul Hellyer was a liberal, and he's nutty...

I've a long list of members on ignore probably the vast majority on the right but you're not among them so take that as I accept your approach to conversations on science as measured...your questions/doubts are legit...

I found since I've lowered my tolerance and moved more to the ignore list I've had better discussions and not because the remaining agree with my opinions (often they don't)but because they're logical and don't have a political agenda behind their science...that they tend to be on the left and have progressive opinions goes hand in hand with inquiring minds pushing science forward...

 

Asinine strawman with zero basis in fact!

 

From you that is a compliment. This is what I mean about the ugly Democrat.