Do you really think it's a good idea to get people to spend more money?

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  1. james M

    james M Banned

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    do you mean desired by the free market or desired by a Nazi govt which knows better than the free market?
     
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    You have to misquote? Tut tut. I referred to individual preferences repeatedly. Why are you against individual preferences?
     
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    if conservatives are against individual preferences I will pay you $10,000. Bet??
     
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    This pathetic response of yours doesn't wash. Again, why are you against individual preferences? Social democracy has higher self employment rates than your neoliberal blubbering
     
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    My individual preference is to not have my money taken from me by force. Are you against my individual preference?
     
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    MY? That shows your nonsense. This is about individual preferences. Not mine, not yours.

    Your ideology is against economic choice.
     
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    Depends how weak you look
     
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    So you oppose individual preference?
     
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    Depends on the individuals preference.
    I can be.
    I prefer not to be... but no guarantees.
     
  10. Reiver

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    I've always been in favour of individualism, thus my left wing credentials. The right wing, associated with the authoritarian personality, don't really give a toss about the individual. We see that, for example, with their disregard for low self employment rates.
     
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    Maybe you should address those concerns to an authoritarian right winger.
     
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    Given you have denied racism impacts on the labour market, no need.
     
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    Authoritarian? How so?
     
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    Already said.
     
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    Okay, run along, son...
     
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    we don't claim to be authoritarian enough to intervene in the economy at gunpoint in 10001 ways to get things like correct wages and correct level of self-employment. Kindergarten! Are you enjoying your taste of American freedom? Ever wonder why you never learned it in the Old world?
     
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    You're not making sense. This isn't about government preferences, it is about individual preferences. Conservatism does tend to support big business and the financial elite. Genuine economic choice passes it by.
     
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    Right now 2018 in the USA with supposedly a great Dirty Donald economy, U.S consumer debt is approaching 4 TRILLION.We have the highest mortgage debt,higheststudent loan debt,highest auto loan debt and the highest credit card debt in our nations history,all records I NEVER HEAR DIRTY DONALD mentioning???GEE I WONDER WHY????
     
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    moronic of course!! conservatives support capitalism ie where everyone is free to choose all the time about everything. This is why Milton Friedman called his book "Free to Choose" Do you see why the old world is the old world?
     
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    why? Obviously because his first priority is ending the Obama recession.
     
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    maybe, but then capitalism is self correcting so its the best system to deal with racism
     
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    got it Hitler Stalin Mao were concerned with individualism.
     
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    Yup, when a lefty makes good sense, just pull out the Hitler Stalin Mao card in hope of intimidating.
     
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    How do you know it's self correcting? You think the Walrasian Auctioneer is a friend of the family? A Billy Bob? Even orthodox economics rejects your argument as cobblers (e.g. multiple equilibria).

    And racism? The Chicago School, which dominates right wing comment in racism, still demands extra market interference. With their focus on economic rents derived from market power, a taste for discrimination goes unhindered.
     
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    How many people died to make the USA? Several million...Are you proud of that?
    No Marxism/Socialism/Communism was necessary. Same with the millions of other people killed to keep monarchies with church support in power..But all you people ever talk about is the communist dictatorships, wow Japan killed millions also, but yet, no communism was involved..
    Was Ghengis Khan a communist?

    No matter what form of govt. has been on the planet, they have all killed to establish and keep power..
     
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