Abortion is a homicide, deal with it

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  1. Renee

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    Homicide involves a person. Personifying a zygote doesn’t make it a person.
     
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    A fetus is a child according to federal law?
     
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    Incorrect!!!! Children in utero are human beings no matter what stage they are in. Not if we did the right thing and told them abortions are homicides!!! You folks are lying to them telling them an abortion isn’t!!!!!
     
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    Once again, incorrect!!!!!
    Sentience( the undefinable gold standard of abortion promoters to define the personhood threshold) is said by all intelligent people to occur before birth.
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Yes!!!!!

    Read the Unborn Victims of Violence Act passed while slick Willie was President.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    No, THIS is what he's saying :

    Ronstar said:
    Federal law is straight and to the point.

    unless it specifically states, humans in utero are recognized as persons, the law does no such thing.""""""""

    There is no "child" in utero. It is a fetus .

    A child is a person, a fetus is not.

    No one is a legal person until birth.



    So maybe it does despite your total lack of proof.

    A fetus STILL isn't a person until birth....


    There are no "abortion promoters"....just more hyperbole because facts aren't on your side :)
     
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    The UVVA does NOT grant the fetus personhood....and you cannot show where it does because it doesn't...


    It does not state the fetus is a "child"....it doesn't :)
     
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    Why would that stop them? Abortions have been around for just about forever and no matter what they were called by extremist fanatics women still had them :)
     
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    People generally do not want to commit a crime. Sure some callous individuals will still kill with no conscience, but many will not.

    Once again your logic is flawed. Murders have always been around, does that justify just allowing it and making it legal?
     
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    It absolutely recognizes the personhood of a child in utero at any stage of development!!! That is just plain fact. No law grants personhood to anyone!!!!
     
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    ONCE AGAIN, if you feel a crime is being committed it is your RESPONSIBILITY to report it to the police....HAVE YOU?


    WHY NOT ? :)



    Murders and abortions are two different things.

    Murder disrupts society and causes chaos so that's why it's illegal...

    Abortions don't....
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    The UVVA does NOT grant the fetus personhood....and you cannot show where it does because it doesn't...


    It does not state the fetus is a "child"....it doesn't :)



    No law grants personhood? Then why do you say the UVVA does?? LOL You contradicted yourself in three sentences...
     
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    There are plenty of abortion promoters. Come on, own your position don’t cower. The facts are overwhelmingly on my side. People are legal persons prior to birth. Read your bible ( Roe v Wade )and the various state laws involving abortion. You are surprisingly unaware of the law to be so adamant.

    Why are late term abortions prohibited??????
     
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    it recognizes it, doesn’t grant it. Read a dictionary or maybe have somebody read it to you no contradiction exists Skippy.
     
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    The question is how early.

    What pro-choicers say sounds reasonable, until we get into the nitty-gritty of exactly what gestational age the cut-off should be.
     
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    Yep all thresholds they have thrown out there have been proven to be arbitrary!
     
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    Only in your mind.


    I promote women's right to their own bodies and you promote destroying rights.




    You haven't presented any...




    Here we go round the rosy ...and around and around...



    IF a fetus is deemed a person with rights then with those rights comes the same restrictions we all have.

    We cannot harm another without their consent...A fetus couldn't do that either :)


    We all have the right to self defense so a woman can defend herself by killing the fetus( the ONLY way to stop the harm)





    You promote women losing the same rights you have and enjoy...

     
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    The "nitty -gritty gestational age is 23-24 weeks....the age of viability....how many times do you have to be told that????
     
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    :roflol::roflol::nana: What a crock of crap....stick to Panda bears.....


    Misogynists, that's how Anti-Choicers present themselves as they try to take away women's rights and turn them into nothing more than cattle
     
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    But you do agree, at some point the woman's choice runs out...

    If she waits too long.
     
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    Sure it runs out but by then who cares.....certainly no mentally stable woman would want an elective abortion after 24 weeks...so no prob...
     
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    Nah. You do nothing if the sort. What about females who are slaughtered in utetro? You don’t give a crap about them.
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    The truth hurts doesn’t it. Yuk it up, but you know it is true!
     
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    But why? For some arbitrary nonsensical reason that isn’t backed by real science. Therin lies the pro abortion guy’s problem.
     
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    There are plenty of women who want an abortion at 24 weeks.
    For the same reasons they want an abortion at 20 weeks, or 18 weeks.

    After all, it's just turned into another choice, hasn't it?
     
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