Capitalism, A Worker's Best Friend?

Only liberals undermine working class with idiotic liberal policies that ship their jobs to China.

 

No longer, now it is used to label those who oppose it as racist!!

 

this is because of idiotic liberal policies that shipped their jobs to China!!

 

globalism is great for workers in China who are getting rich! USA should adopt similar policies for its workers!!

 

Which ones were those?

 

What do you have against business owners?? They invent great products that raise our standard of living at the fastest possible rate!!

 

idiotic liberal policies that drive jobs to China: liberal taxes, liberal unions, liberal regulations, trade deals!! And thats just for starters!!

 

Damn that Reagan!

 

unlikely since Europe is socialist and braking apart and China cant be trusted

 

Nixon was the first liberal to visit China to start the balling rolling...

 

Wealth inequality does not divide a nation unless you are a standard Marxist trying to pretend it does to bring about communism!

 

In the United States liberals and conservatives work together in politics behind closed doors all the time in screwing over the majority of the population. Destroying the United States economy has always been a bipartisan effort in unison.

In the 1990's plenty of corporate conservatives outsourced their companies overseas for a hefty profit retiring in places like the Bahamas.

Republicans and political conservatives are no better.

 

When you reduce half the population of a nation into poverty its demise is always right around the corner. Try arguing against that, you can't.

 

Under the current leadership our country won't because it isn't considered profitable by the ownership class.

 

I have nothing against business owners when prosperity can be enjoyed or even shared with a majority of people in a nation. It's when business owners through monopolies enrich themselves at everybody else's expense bringing a nation to the brink of ruin where I have a problem with them.

 

Also, let us not forget it was under Reagan where the first legalization of illegal migrants came into play. Ronald Reagan was a big fan of illegal and foreign immigration.

 

Anybody against nationalism for me is immediately suspect because its opposite is internationalism and one world government. I don't understand your hatred of nationalism, care to elaborate even further on that?

Donald Trump's nationalism isn't even a genuine form of nationalism, it's a watered down version of nationalism, or a farcical illusion of one.

Why should western nations suffer economically or internally to be concerned with developing nations? If you're looking to make all nations economically equal as some sort of campaign of international social justice such a project will utterly fail. Not all nations can enjoy the same level of success economically, that's just infeasible no matter how noble your intentions may be. Trade harms sub Saharan Africa? What?!

Why is equitable trade between two nations so hard for you to accept?

Let's take an African nation like Nigeria for instance, why can't a country like the United States have equitable trade with Nigeria?

How does productivity increase in a nation when jobs are outsourced? You keep saying it but I need examples if I am going to take you seriously.

Job outsourcing leads to increased wages? Once again if you can provide examples that be great because what you're saying to me is just unbelievable on my side of things.

Communism is very much about internationalism, or did you not know that? Am I missing something here?

Nationalism is merely the love, pride, patriotism, and enthusiasm of one's own nation. Economically it is the desire to provide for and protect the interests of a nation's people. Who is blame gaming here?

No, I am about correcting injustices.

No, I am not trying to sneer at economics where in fact economics is one of my favorite subjects reading about. I just want to understand your position. I've seen a lot of your posts in other threads and from a socialist stand point they're pretty good. Now obviously you don't agree with my nationalism but that's alright we have a disagreement.

How would your socialist economic model eliminate short term profiting of job outsourcing?

Yeah, I criticize Jews because they're the biggest supporters of foreign immigration, globalism, and if you haven't noticed already dominate financial banking the world over that is basically destroying western nations internally. This thread however is about economics where I don't want to dwell on all of that here for the sake of this thread's subject.

Cable Street, eh? Sounds like you're British. England would of been better off under Sir Oswald Mosley.

Nationalism doesn't have any political economy? Sounds to me like you haven't read into nationalism under its many forms all that much, not surprising.

 

Sir Oswald Mosley and nationalist political economy just for you Reiver.

 

Weird stance. It's theory that allows us to empirically test the impact of market power (from general analysis into oligopoly to specific analysis into aspects such as the 'Wal-Mart Effect').

Without an economic spine, you've ultimately just got 'I don't like things' impotency.

 

Nationalism is used as a tool to manipulate. The real political economy hides behind, typically fascism as you've kindly reminded everyone.

Your far right stance is pretty mundane. Throw in some 'I like workers, honest' and then mix with a heady brew of nationalism and anti-Semitism boogiemanning.

 

It's not weird, it's experience.
I have been on political forums since the 90's. Way back when there were BBS boards. I have talked about these very topics for decades. It doesn't go anywhere. It's just talk.
I feel, if we as a people - left or right - take 5 seconds to look around, it doesn't take long before you see the damning results of corporatism. Corporatism is now. It's not a theory, it's not a idealistic discussion about this or that....it is real and happening now. It effects every aspect of your life. almost entirely negatively.
And no one is talking about it.

 

So you come on an economics sub-forum and argue that experience (ie tabloidism), not economics, is needed?

But without economics, typically evidence derived from theory, it isn't anything but whinge.

 

My old teacher's dad.
Lol. Embarrassing dad to have.

 

Your international socialism is sour and stale, throw in I like the white European working class caring about its plight but when it concerns foreign population replacement of it you're all a bit mum.

I've also seen you haven't replied to my much larger post.

 

I like Oswald Mosley.