Who are the proud boys

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  1. Josephwalker

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    I'm sure the proud boys has its fueled by testesterone and beer young guys that will get in trouble but as I said earlier this is a natural backlash to ANTIFA and though I'm sure it's an imperfect group I'm all for it. Someone has to have the time and energy to stand up to these leftist punks. They have had it all their way for to long and we need "punks" of our own to join the battle.
     
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    I just skip over this guy's hate filled elitist rants.
     
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    You really like your little brown shirts...

    There's your "mobs" folks

    And while I don't support ANTIFA...I do support accuracy. ANTIFA is an anti-fascist group. THEY have formed in RESPONSE to groups like the Proud Boys
     
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    What federal law are they violating? Let them do it on federal property and not city hall and they will be action.
     
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    You lost me on the healthcare bit. The rightwing are the ones who are trying to deny the right to an abortion and in rationing healthcare to the poor by not providing it. Now I agree that the dems want a society where people become dependent on the government for a longer period of time. The rightwing does all they can do to limit unemployment benefits too. A safety net that a government should provide if they allow the cyclical nature of Free enterprise.
     
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    These narratives about aggressive left-wing violence aren’t just distorted. They are dangerous, because they set the stage for replacing democratic institutions with authoritarian rule. Provoking street violence and blaming it on their opponents is exactly how totalitarian regimes have gained power in the past.

    The 1931 to 1932 crisis in Germany that culminated in Hitler’s takeover is a case in point. It centered on frequent street clashes between Nazi stormtroopers and Communists. Both sides took the offensive, marching into one another’s strongholds seeking to provoke fighting. However, the Nazis extended their violence to assaults on Jews, trade union activists, social democrats and politicians of any persuasion (including Catholic leaders in Bavaria) who opposed them. The Nazi strategy: to deliberately provoke street fighting, then blame it on the victims and call for strict measures to restore “order.”
     
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    Please, they see anything to the right of Oboma as Fascist.
     
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    The only ones wearing certain color shirts are the clad in black ANTIFA mob. Proud boys are the ones standing up to these wanna be fascist brown shirts. Proud boys only fights them while ANTFA goes after everybody including old white men who just happen to drive by.
     
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    hmm... yeah... not so much. Antifa clearly are not victims here. Why even try to excuse their misbehavior?
     
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    I'm NOT "excusing their behavior". I'm explaining it

    They are the other side of the same street brawling coin.

    Right wing groups stage "demonstrations" in what they see as left wing cities HOPING to provoke violence...so that people like you can spout your bullshit

    Were Antifa to stage demonstration in Texas they'd be doing the same thing and be just as wrong
     
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    Hmmm... so you're advancing the idea that there are reservations then right? Where the right to assemble or have speech is restricted because of your zipcode.. novel. Highly unconstitutional, but again, you tried... right? :roflol:
     
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    ANTIFA labels itself anti fascist but then go on to act exactly like Hitlers fascist brown shirts. Proof is in the pudding as they say
     
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    Nope. I'm pointing out that these right wing mobs are deliberately provoking these confrontations in order to exploit them in just the way that you are.

    Again...if ANTIFA staged demonstration in "conservative zipcodes" they'd be doing the same thing.

    To my knowledge they have not and should they do so they would be just as wrong
     
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    Hmm.. Interesting. I recall you being a vocal supporter of Occupy Wall St, right? I mean, the nerve now, of folks pushing their contradictory views in the liberal enclaves.. So, spare me the "if" since clearly this has already happened. I don't recall mobs of violence then reacting to the OWS folks, do you? Nah.. not so much. So your quibble is that now folks you don't like are showing up peacefully, until you unleash the Antifa riot mongers, because you're so worried about your continued peace...

    So, "deliberately provoking" seems to just be reserved for your team? Really? :roflol: You seem to not be able to recall the new marching orders.. You know, the "we'll get in your face" BS ... But, it's not cool if folks you don't agree with then use it on your team? Really? :roflol:
     
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    What?

    None of that makes any sense.

    OWS is not ANTIFA...OWS was almost entirely a peaceful protest and I don't know if they demonstrated in "conservative zipcodes" and in any event their demonstrations were not about provoking street brawls

    I know you really tried there but that was a HUGE fail
     
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    I know, it's hard, when confronted with the actual history of your team efforts, that it's super difficult to remain credible when you're now whining about folks you don't like showing up, you know, to "stir things up", right? Laughable.
     
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    Surrender accepted
     
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    Thank you for your opinion
     
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    You're funny. The facts. yes, your whining is unfounded. Yes, you have no justification for your call for reservations of restricted speech or assembly, No, you cannot tolerate offending view points, and yes, you have opined your agreement that violent interdiction is necessary when confronted by groups you don't like. Got it.
     
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    You were going to provide evidence of ANTIFA staging provocative demonstrations in "conservative zipcodes" and instead made some vague reference to Occupy Wall Street protesters "somewhere"

    Ummm...what "facts" do you think you presented in that lame response?
     
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    So much fun, huh. OWS folks aren't any different than say demonstrations that are being set up in liberal enclaves, now are they? The difference is your willingness to send out your brownshirts ANTIFA. I don't recall OWS folks being harassed, or otherwise attacked, do you? Which was the point. Again, history isn't your friend here. The corner you're painting yourself into is getting smaller all the time.
     
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    Again. OWS is not a mob. They are not violent.

    This isn't about OWS

    I ain't "sending" anyone

    In fact if you are referring to ANTIFA...they don't go to conservative enclaves to provoke violence. If that were true you would have shown proof of it. You haven't

    Your little brown shirts (actually black polo shirts) DO

    But keep flailing. It's pretty funny
     
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    "My Dad is the first in my family to get a master's degree, and he is hardcore liberal despite the fact dems have been losing elections SINCE 2010."

    Since when is winning an election a requirement for one's personal political beliefs.
     
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    My Dad was never a hardcore voter either way until the lying liberal media started brainwashing him. It's so bad now, we haven't talked in years.

    Look further back to the "ImnotOliver" post that started it. He/she claimed it's genetic. That's BS of course, not to mention against the forum RULES!

    Steve
     
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