Why are guns holy objects in this country?

You keep bringing nothing. It just gets laughed at. Lol

 

Try reading the post to which I was replying and you'll see that it is you who is off topic per the posts in question.

 

Right, and regarding guns that has to change. Limitations must be put on the 2nd Amendment.

 

Now you have to read the 4th amendment. The government fears guns, and that is the

I own over 100 guns (most part of the inventory of an ex-gun dealer), and 7 motorized vehicles. Freedom is doing what you want. One man's pleasure is another man's poison.

 

Ok so guns in the courtroom....right?

 

Freedoms do not have limitations put on them only by totalitarians. There are a lot of countries you could live in that have put such limitations like you want. Mexico, that outkills among it's citizens and gun control is total. Then you can go live in China where gun control killed 40-50 million Chinese. Or the soviet union/Russia where people just "disappear" like magic, but are found in mass graves created by the government.
These places it is realized that "a fool and their rights are soon parted, and slavery returns." I am sure they will make room for the anti gunners, ready victims.

 

The government has no power to regulate guns ANYWHERE. Planes, Courtrooms, People kill, gun don't, they are only the tool.

 

You have nothing!!! We have had a second amendment since 1789, over 225 years, and still going strong and a relative echo of freedom still exists. The armed populace stops the mass murder of the citizens by government, or enslavement of citizens by the government.

 

Just because something works in one country doesn’t mean it works in all countries.

 

Federal government has no legitimate rights given to it by the people (via the constitution) the powers to control any weapons, even if many feel it is logical. There is a way to amend the constitution legally, by amendment. The 21st repealed the 18th amendment, it can be done. Why has it not been done?

 

And you're being ridiculous equating something that millions of people simply think is "fun" with some kind of religion. Liberals/progressives get elected screaming for more gun control and you think people "would not" try to stock up on guns and ammunition???

 

Lots more "fun" than people in other countries get out of it apparently. I have guns and "have fun" shooting but I haven't bought one in 22 years.

 

That's pretty much a myth people who love guns (I count myself as one of these even though I actually own only one gun) tell themselves to make their hobby sound noble and inspired.

 

Some countries are filled with slaves, some are filled with citizens.

 

History shows it is NOT a myth, even just 20th century history has a lot of examples. Freedom is a noble endeavor!

 

20th century examples please. And remember I am NOT some gun control advocate. I love firearms pretty much as most people who own them do.

 

You think politics would go on as usual in this country if we were disarmed?

 

The Afghanis, with American provided light arms, were able to stave off invasion from the Soviet Union.

Vietnam proved quite difficult for American forces to occupy. It's true there were some Russian-provided fighter jets overhead and some heavy arms, and that America probably could have won the war if they had really wanted to, but looking at the main problem that the military was up against, it wasn't conventional heavy forces or armored tanks.

 

You forgot American provided Stinger SAMs which downed hundreds of Soviet aircraft in Afghanistan.

In Vietnam you forgot Soviet provided (and Soviet manned) SAMs that shot down more than 1,000 American aircraft. For that matter you forget Soviet naval vessels harassing U.S. Naval forces in the South China Sea near continually during the war knowing that the U.S. couldn't retaliate against them.

In neither Afghanistan or Vietnam did the locals actually "win" the war. The Soviets and U.S. both basically lost interest. And it still cost the Afghans and Vietnamese literally millions of citizens.

 

Yes. I don't think any of the "powers that be" in our government and culture give a second thought to the "armed citizenry".

That is simple fantasy.

 

How do you explain the cacophony of rhetoric about “military grade”, “assault weapons”, etc. when these are used in a vast minority of crimes or violent offenses?

How do you square the hate for the .50BMG when it’s been used in somewhere around 15-18 crimes in US history?

You think our political class is inherently more virtuous than all violently totalitarian politicians in world history?

Nice sentiment but I think you’re overly sanguine. I can’t simply ignore history and human nature.

 

It can be a significant factor when there is another foreign government providing support and coordinating things.

Two more recent examples are the toppling of Gaddfi in Libya, and the civil war in Syria, which came close to toppling Assad's coalition government.

 

Yes they do under the commerce clause

 

Let's try it and see

 

You can have guns and gun control