Trump To Review Case Against Major Matt Goldsteyn – Charged w/ Murder for Killing Taliban Bomb-Maker

President Trump will not allow this injustice to stand!

 

Troop discipline is important. Rules are necessary, but they have to be reality based. For instance, dozens of American troops were executed for rape during WW II. That was the right thing to do and made it easier for us to win the war.

Releasing clandestine combatants so that they can torture and execute our allies and continue their attacks on our troops smells rotten - like treason.

 

It was a war crime pure and simple. Nice that you use the fact that the south Vietnamese didn’t prosecute for political reasons. That one act is enough of a propaganda nugget for the NVA that the Americans are evil.

I’m not surprised RWers support war crimes as long as it suit their agenda.

 

Killing is fun? You need help.

 

One thing that civilians need to understand is that there are a LOT of unstable people in the armed forces, more-so than just your standard group of people.

 

More civilians commit crimes than those in the armed forces. Not everyone is eligible to serve though. Those that can should be respected to some degree. It can be a very difficult job.

 

The Hamlet of My Lai was VC.

The orders were to kill all of the VC in My Lai.

If it were have been ARVAN troops instead of American troops the results would have been the same.

Lt. Calley wasn't charged for any war crime because there was no war crime committed.
If My Lai were have been north of the 17th parallel in North Vietnam would have had a war crime.

(Nixon ordering American combat troops into Cambodia was legal.)

The RVN government refused to charge anyone for murder or any other crimes because all of the villagers were the enemy of the RVN.

Lt. Calley was charged and prosecuted under the UCMJ and the vast majority of Americans weren't happy campers about it ?

What Lt. Calley was guilty of was carrying out an unlawful order that at the time wasn't taught during basic training of American military personnel.

Now remember at the time when the My Lai incident occurred, the vast majority of the fathers of those who served in Vietnam served during WW ll.
80% of the males of the greatest generation had served during WW ll and know something about war.

Survey Results
QUESTION: Do you agree or disagree with the decision of the military court which found (Lt. William) Calley guilty (in connection with the My Lai incident) and gave him a life sentence?

Agree 7%
Disagree 78%
No opinion 15%
From a telephone survey of 1,090 adults from across the United States conducted for President Nixon on April 1, 1971.

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QUESTION: Do you think President Nixon should free Lt. William Calley, substantially reduce his sentence, or uphold his life imprisonment sentence (in connection with the My Lai incident)?

Free Lt. William Calley 51%
Substantially reduce his sentence 28%
Uphold his life immprisonment sentence 9%
No opinion 12%
From a telephone survey of 973 adults from across the United States conducted by Opinion Reasearch Corporation for President Nixon on April 5-6, 1971.

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QUESTION 001: Do you approve or disapprove of the court martial finding that Lt. Calley is guilty of premeditated murder? (If 'Disapprove', ask Do you disapprove of the verdict because you think what happened at My Lai was not a crime, or because you think many others besides Lt. Calley share the responsibility for what happened?

Approve 11%
Disapprove/Not a crime 15%
Disapprove/Others share responsibility 56%
Disapprove/Both reasons (vol.) 1%
Disapprove/Other reasons (vol.) 5%
No opinion 11%
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QUESTION 002: Do you think Lt. Calley is being made the scapegoat for the actions of others above him or not (with regard to the My Lai incident)?

Yes 70%
No 12%
No opinion 18%
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QUESTION 003: Do you think the (Lt.) Calley sentence of life imprisonment (after his court martial finding of guilty in the My Lai incident) is fair or too harsh, or too lenient?

Fair 13%
Too harsh 79%
Too lenient 1%
No opinion 7%
From a telephone survey of 522 adults from across the United States conducted by The Gallup Organization for Newsweek in April, 1971.

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QUESTION 069: (Now let me read you some statements that have been made about Lt. Calley and the My Lai incident. For each, tell me if you tend to agree or disagree.) . . . The soldiers at My Lai were only following orders from their higher ups.

Agree 77%
Disagree 9%
Not sure 14%
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QUESTION 070: (Now let me read you some statements that have been made about Lt. Calley and the My Lai incident. For each, tell me if you tend to agree or disagree.) . . . Lt. Calley has been singled out unfairly as a scapegoat.

Agree 77%
Disagree 15%
Not sure 8%
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QUESTION 076: How would you rate President Nixon on the way he reacted to the court-martial of Lt. Calley (in the My Lai incident)?

Excellent 27%
Pretty good 31%
Only fair 17%
Poor 18%
Not sure 7%
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QUESTION 080: (Let me read you some statements that have been made about the way President Nixon reacted to the court-martial of Lt. Calley (in the My Lai incident) and tell me whether you agree or disagree.) . . . President Nixon has come close to undermining the system of military justice by showing sympathy with Lt. Calley.

Agree 28%
Disagree 58%
Not sure 14%
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QUESTION 083: Do you tend to agree or disagree with the Army Court-martial Board the found Lt. William Calley guilty (in the My Lai incident)?

Agree with decision 24%
Disagree with decision 65%
Not sure 11%
From a personal survey of 1600 adults from across the United States conducted by Louis Harris and Associates in April, 1971.

http://famous-trials.com/mylaicourts/1640-myl-surveyresults

 

When you think about it, Obama should be tried for murder for putting our troops in positions they should never be in....at the mercy of terrorists, because they're too afraid to shoot back. The ROE he set up are MONSTEROUS!!!

 

Not really relevant to what I said, but alrighty.

 

Prove it.

 

You don't kill prisoners always, but only if they impede the mission.

 

It was like shooting fish in a barrel, and you knew at least that you would not face them again, that they would never get the chance to kill you. It was exhilarating.

 

Executing legitimate POWs is always a bad idea and a war crime. See Malmedy massacre.
Captured spies and other clandestine operators are not POWs and should be quickly brought before a military tribunal for a hearing and quickly executed after their status is confirmed. Under *no* circumstances should they ever be released before a hearing is held.

 

"Nothing in life is so exhilarating as to be shot at without result." Winston Churchill

Wiping out enemies dedicated to killing him would probably have been at least as welcome a result - perhaps not as exhilarating.

 

Osama Bin Laden was unarmed and in pajamas when he was assassinated by US forces.

 

I don't see it going to a civilian jury trial-let alone a death penalty case.

He might get docked on pay.

 

They werent in a place to make demands by that point.

And even after the Emperor surrendered, a military coup was attempted.

There were lots of very indoctrinated people there.

 

War has its own laws and those that don't play by the rules deserve whats coming to them.

 

Thats not what happened here.

 

He also squandered American blood in pulling out of Iraq, only to go back in after it was taken over by ISIS.

 

Problem solved.

Problem staying solved.

 

...and hiding bravely behind one of his wives.

 

Very relevant. You should back up your assertion with facts if you think otherwise.

 

Never take prisoners during wartime.

 

Since civilians support their troops why wouldn't you kill the civilians to take away the enemies troops support base?