Trump To Review Case Against Major Matt Goldsteyn – Charged w/ Murder for Killing Taliban Bomb-Maker

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  1. APACHERAT

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    With NGF it took from 15 to up to 30 minutes.

    That's a long time when you're in a firefight.

    While I was in-country my CO of Sub Unit One 1st ANGLICO was able to get it down to less than 10 minutes.
    If I remember correctly his name was Lt. Col. Simpson or Simon (?)

    Most artillery, naval gunfire and close air support missions were pre planned in advance.
     
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    Hard to stay where he would have stopped but the premise of the Nazi's was uniting ethnic Germans.

    It was a nationalistic state, like Italy.

    The soviets on the other hand wanted to spread their disease of communism world wide, and they actually had the higher body count.
     
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    They “allowed” Hitler? Dictators don’t rule by the will of their people. They rule by fear and repression, which is exactly what Hitler turned loose on any who opposed him.

    Dresden was not a target of military necessity. It’s factories couldn’t help the Germans. The soldiers stationed there would have been better served consuming German resources than as ashes that the OKW could write off.

    They weren’t going to contribute to the war because the rail capacity had already been annihilated and any column of trucks and other vehicles on the road in Germany at this time would get a visit from cannons and rockets.
     
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    He didn't murder anybody, he killed a terrorist.

    Your complete lack of military understanding and knowledge for an 8 year veteran is staggering. What MOS?
     
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    Still the Soviets gave almost as good as they got. They made it much easier on Europe and the USA.
     
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    The definition of a legitimate military target is not someone with a weapon in his hands.

    It CAN include that and often does.

    But it is not comprehensive.
     
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    35N, and if they are unarmed and you’ve just previously taken them prisoner, you can’t kill them. That’s basic Law of Land Warfare stuff.
     
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    So you agree that he was unarmed and was in a position where the Major could have taken custody of him, yes?

    But the Major decided instead to conduct an extrajudicial execution.
     
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    We in America have been exposed to cultural-marxism revisionist history when it comes to South Africa and Rhodesia.

    I see your source came from a forum dedicated to factual history.


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    True. Plus at the time they had kids with panzershreks popping up out of holes.
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    Of course you kill them. That is the whole reason you are there. Even if they have been detained previously. I don't think you honestly understand warfare.
     
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    Kid with a gun? Kill them. Don't ask their age.
     
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    Hitler was democratically elected. As was Mussolini. There are sheep that will vote in their own oppressor.

    Dresden was a legitimate target as per the assessments I have provided you in this very thread.

    You don't get to dismiss those because its convenient for your argument.

    Germany was dangerous to the end of the war and a legitimate target.
     
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    False, he was previously detained and then released. The Major killed a terrorist that was free to make bombs and kill again.
     
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    True.

    I can't help but wonder what would have happened if the US/allies stayed out of Europe until both sides were worn down-and then went to war against whomever won there.
     
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    You can’t kill prisoners. That’s a core concept in military law and international law. It’s a war crime by every definition.
     
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    Haha! That’s not a bad method. Long time in the making.
     
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    Neither Hitler nor Mussolini were democratically elected. Hitler was appointed by Hindenburg and Mussolini seized power in a coup and was handed power by the Italian King.

    If your knowledge of history is really this ignorant, you have no business commenting on the topic.
     
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    They did. They chewed up the German Army all over the Steppes. It's still amazing how far the Germans actually pushed into the country.
     
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    Hitler was old and was already planning his funeral before he attacked Stalin.

    I read the personal memoirs of Albert Speer, probably the only person Hitler trusted.

    Hitler was a liberal politically but the hard core NAZI's were socialist and these were the real radicals of the NAZI regime.

    Hitler was always concerned that the hard core Nazi's wanted to purge him from power.
    That's why Hitler had his own political army, the Waffen SS.

    These radical Nazi's were toppling statues in Germany of German heroes who were aristocrats.
    Sound familiar what we have been seeing in America lately ?

    One thing I got out of Speer's memoirs, comparing Hitler to Trump is like comparing apples to oranges. Both are complete opposites.

    Trump has more in common with George Patton.
     
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    So the Major could not detain him? You are committing to that claim? It was impossible for him to detain that suspected terrorist?
     
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    Sounds like he hunted down the terrorist and killed him. I wasn't in the room so I have no idea if he could have been detained. One thing is for sure, this terrorist is dead and can no longer build bombs to kill Americans and civilians.
     
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    The courts seem to think he could have been detained and thus the Major’s actions constitute possible murder. They have more information that you do.
     
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    They have more information than you as well, but you didn't even know the basic facts of the case to begin with and kept making false statements.

    We'll see what happens from here.
     
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    Who is talking about sanctioning the "rape of every girl" or the killing of "all men"?
     

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