Theology in the public schools

Please use the quote function.

That doesn't at all seem to follow the logic I presented.

My point is that a person who is truly convinced of morality relying on God and who loses their faith in God (which, let's be honest, is not that hard these days) will lose the grounding of their morality.

That being said, my argument is not a generalisation, I do not suggest that this happens to all people. There are many former Christians who have found an alternative grounding for their morality, often in secular humanism.

 

Your logic is a pattern of one extends to a pattern of many.

And, yes, my example exactly matches that of #24 and #26.

 

You give a good example of Stalin. Let me tell you little more about society back then. Industrial revolution is in full swing (think of internet revolution today), old values are pushed away, priests ridiculed in public transport as primitive and uneducated. Young mother of Stalin, and other religious people, foresee that events about to unfold will throw society into sewer. She enrolls him into religious school hoping to save her son but forces dictating events are much stronger on both fronts: old society thinks God is not necessary and new godless Communist movement is gaining ground as well. We all know how events unfolded until WWII. Now let see what happens to a little altar boy who thinks he won over God and who thought that by kicking God out of everywhere he will build strong society . Millions of Soviet soldiers are dying and millions more are captured every month into the hands of godless Nazis. World around Stalin is crumbling every day and the people face a complete extinction. Now little boy thinks about his mother and about several years he spent in religious school. He thinks about what priests had taught him about patriotism, about God, about rise and downfall of nations. What he does next you can check in every history book-little boy who though he won a battle against God goes to the 'Mother Church' begging on his knees for most holy Christian relics, begs for the help of Christian Church he was so determined to destroy from this planet. He cries and he begs because unless the Church backs his troops all is lost, his nation and the country is finished forever. Mother Church, as any good mother would do, helps little boy Stalin, relies the troops behind holy relics, behind holy cross, behind Lord Jesus himself. Tide starts turning, godless Nazi troops go from complete victory to complete destruction.

 

Oh, boy.

 

I think it could work as an elective choice as long as the choice was the students'.

 

You'll never get agreement on what constitutes a valid religion. I went to school with a Jehovah's Witness. I would not want that taught in a comparative religion class. There's no way I want to fund another red-tape club that determines valid religions for purposes of public school education.

Just give them this -

 

"Validity" is for Sunday School, Always Curious, not for an elective Comparative Religion class in public school.

 

You need validity in order to determine which religions get taught. If it's not a religion, it wouldn't be in the class. Good luck getting people to agree on the list of which religions to teach. One person's "valid" religion is another person's cult.

 

How could you grade the exams? No one on any of the forums agree about anything.

 

Government schools exist to teach the government religion: obey the state, do not question the legitimacy of its authority, and fight and die when you are ordered to do so.

 

"Validity" is for Sunday School, Always Curious, not for an elective Comparative Religion class in public school.

That first sentence demonstrates you know about education. "Validity" (meaning 'truthfulness') is not a criteria for selection. The public schools have no trouble coming up with such courses and content. The cult of those who opposed it are founded on anti-theism and separation of church and state.

 

Not in the U.S. Maybe in your country.

 

Of course it can be done, and it has been done so for a long, long time.

 

The cult of anti-Godism is so easy to overthrow with logic and reason.

 

Or teaching that religion is false, and atheism should be the faith of the state.

 

You believe that government-run public schools in the US exist for some other reason?

 

You do not understand the reason for public schools in the US, BleedingHeadKen?

 

That is brainwashing and not real education.

 

Of course it can be done, and it has been done so for a long, long time.

Anyone of the cult of atheism would think so, I would imagine.

 

Have you broken your donkey's colt neck yet?

 

There is a single belirf system for all seven .5 billion passengers on the 5 billion your old spaceship

 

This is what one of the most brilliant minds, if not number one in human history, has to say about the subject: “The gift of mental power comes from God, Divine Being, and if we concentrate our minds on that truth, we become in tune with this great power. My Mother had taught me to seek all truth in the Bible; therefore I devoted the next few months to the study of this work.”
Tesla

I would let children follow his footsteps, not godless Stalin’s and Hitler’s. With all due respect to your worries we are talking about one class here, an elective class. This has been around for years in America and around the world anyway. You don’t want to fall behind other nations on this subject? Let’s be progressive and give freedom of expression to our young students. Let’s give them a chance to study about religion of their choice.

 

Well, America was founded on separation of church and state.

So, I suspect your post needs a little more thought.

 

Yours does, actually. Public schools can teach (and many do) teach comparative religions, Bible as literature, Belief and Faith Systems. The classes have to be elective and cannot be proselytizing in nature. That you don't like means nothing.

 

Of course it can be done, and it has been done so for a long, long time.

Of course it can be done, and it has been done so for a long, long time.Anyone of the cult of atheism would think so, I would imagine.

Your post reveals that you don't understand that religion is taught in many elective courses as long as they are not proselytizing. That you don't like that is immaterial.