They hunted and killed a baby elephant!

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  1. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    No they don't, the hunters generally harvest all they can.
    The rich will have their maids cook it for them and their friends.
    You don't even mention waste in hunter circles.
     
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    I get a kick out of the guy who gets nasty with the hunters, as they wait in line at Mc Donalds.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    most of the time the rich are traveling and just want the photo ops
     
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    You are in some fantasy world.
    They gladly serve the meat to their friends.
    They will be chastised by their friends for wasting anything..
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    some of the rich do not care what anyone else thinks

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    As I said, you are in a fantasy world. Even if the hunter just wants his trophy,
    he is with game management, and a herd of locals wanting the meat.

    He paid a lot of money for his tag.
     
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  7. Aleksander Ulyanov

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    Just because I want to have a flush toilet doesn't mean I should have to pump my own septic tank and just because i want to eat meat doesn't mean I should have to work in an abattoir. If it gives you some sort of perverted thrill to go slaughter animals that have never done you any harm or asked for anything from you I can't very well stop you but don't try to act as if you're some sort of manly paragon or nature worshipper because you kill things. I think people that kill for fun are sick and that's exactly what you do as a hunter, nothing less.
     
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    I put up 2 sources who totally dispute this, with numbers graphs.... the works.
     
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    Racists? I wrote... Trump says they are rapists. And I sourced that.
     
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    Then actually prove that such is nothing more than a myth, and that the carcasses of animals hunted for the sake of trophies are left to rot where they fall.
     
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    If that happened it would be all over all the news.
    The locals harvest every bit of the animal.
    They want it, it feeds their families.
     
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    If an inadequate firearm is utilized, the round of ammunition will fail to even penetrate the hide of the animal, potentially even bouncing right off the skull.
     
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    Your source does nothing but prove you misquoted Trump. Thank you for your cooperation.
     
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    Nope... he literally calls them rapists.
    It's even right on tape. lol

    Just utterly childish to put up your right wing alternative reality.
     
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    Your fabricated quote has been debunked by your own link. That was fun.:)
     
  16. truth and justice

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    https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0121471
    Effects of Trophy Hunting Leftovers on the Ranging Behaviour of Large Carnivores: A Case Study on Spotted Hyenas

    SEIBERT - Wildlife officers say someone shot and killed 11 big game animals in eastern Colorado and left the carcasses to rot.
    https://eu.coloradoan.com/story/new...ls-killed-left-rot-eastern-colorado/94749990/
    Evidence of a Hunting Crime, Meat Left to Rot
    Read more at https://www.liveoutdoors.com/hunting/227081-evidence-of-a-hunting-crime/#MJzvSsTkaCMO4jt6.99
    http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/editorial+should+trophy+bear+hunting/8875726/story.html
     
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    Sounds like you are calling illegal poachers, game hunters.
    Using exceptions, as the rule.


    In my years of trekking through the Alaskan wilderness, I have seen many places where an animal was cleaned, gut pile, etc.
    But the only times I saw where the whole animal was left, was several times I stumbled across a pile of Husky's, where the mushers had to cull the herd.
    A little known fact about dog mushers, is that in a litter only one or two dogs make the team. The owner doesn't want to feed, and take care of a useless dog for ten years, so they take them out in the woods and shoot them.

    The bears and other scavengers eat them though.
     
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    Very sad.
     
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    You are clearly only interested in one viewpoint. I’m fine with that. I hope for the animal’s sake the so called experts driven by emotion are more successful in their endeavors than they are at present. Thanks for the discussion.
     
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    The problem with your analogy is the part where you left out calling other people names for wanting a flush toilet too. And demeaning the ones who do pump the tank.

    You clearly are invested in unfounded stereotyping of people who shoot animals because I’ve been clear I’m not a hunter. I’m just not a hypocrite. I’ve shot a lot of animals though so people like you don’t have to.

    I don’t have any problem with doing your dirty work. My problem is with the attitude towards people who choose to do their own killing instead of hiring it out.
     
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    When you are really ready for big game, try this. .700 Nitro Expresscartridge. This beast fires a 1,000-grain bullet at a velocity of 2,000 feet per second (fps). This is what is used for elephants.
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    All I can say is ...WOW.

    I would be scared to fire it.
    Break my shoulder.

    458 is the biggest I ever fired.
     
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    Vacuous deflection ignored for obvious reasons.
     
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    The obnoxious drivel that you posted blamed the victim for being murdered. That you are incapable of comprehending that is exactly what you posted is NOT my problem.
     
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    Neither do "big game hunters" which just makes them wealthy poachers!
     
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