VERIFY: Yes, Trump has never taken a presidential paycheck

The corruption is directing federal funds into his own pocket. Any other federal employee who did that would be in prison.

 

How is he doing that while still losing money??? And what’s corrupt about going to his house or playing golf?

 

If such things were put into the White House, it was on his dime. Were he to have installed a helipad, that is on our dime. His travel costs are deducted from his expense account for such purposes.

 

I shall give you the opportunity to not just make claims, but to prove those claims.

Give it your best shot.

 

As I recall, in general we did not pay for Obama to go to his home, but to go to Hawaii a lot.

 

Well then, prove your claims. Actually you are wrong, but you have a chance to prove your claims.

At this stage, Obama just off wages was $800,000 better off than Trump.

 

Did you read the link I gave you? It lists numerous instances of federal money going to Trump properties. That is him directing federal money into his own pocket.
It is corrupt to use the office he holds to direct taxpayer money into his own pocket. Which is what he is doing.
He can play golf anywhere. Mar a Lago is not his "home" - it is a commercial property.

 

It's the total we can be sure of.

 

That’s true. I don’t know if he ever visited his home in Chicago. He really turned his back on the city and it’s viplence

 

How so when his company is losing money? A minute ago you said it had nothing to with his company now it does? He’s going to his home, and playing golf. That’s not corrupt, that’s his right

 

I too do not recall Obama actually going home. He pretended Hawaii was his home. That is like me claiming Tulare, CA is my home. My parents were not there long. Born there and other than a baby, did not actually live there.

 

I once was the agent for the man who held the job as a federal executive of managing the Nixon White House at San Clemente, Ca. I saw photos in his family room of Nixon holding Ernie's children in his arms. I never thought of Nixon that way until I saw those photos. Ernie explained how the Government handles presidents homes. The home has to be ready to do what it does in DC when the president is there. A helipad was installed at San Clemente. I saw recent photos of the home and the helipad once there is not on site. Even though Obama did not go home to Chicago, one can bet the Feds greatly improved that home so he could do things presidents must do there.

 

FFS are you seriously saying that it isn't possible for his company to be losing money and trump still acting unethically? The point stands that trump is benefiting financially by requiring government usage of properties/services that he owns! That he's still losing money speaks more to trumps ineptitude than anything else.

 

What on Earth is unethical about Trump visiting his home? Or planning golf at the courses he likes? I certainly agree that it's not common, or maybe not ever, have we had a President that happens to have a home in penthouse or on a resort. Trump owns his homes, but he doesn't own the resort or the skyscraper the penthouse is located in, a company that he formed does, and he doesn't run that company anymore...but certainly has investment in it. He is certainly well within his right to go to his home or play golf at the course he likes.

 

Why are you dodging the point? And frankly, no, he doesn't have the right to go play golf wherever he wants. Not when WE are footing the bill.

 

He should have donated his salary to the go fund me page for the wall.

 

What point am I dodging? You're flawed point? and why doesn't he have the right to play where he wants? and how do you know you are paying for his rounds? Did you think Eisenhower, and Obama had restrictions on where they could play? I don't recall anything like that.

 

It's not a flawed point, it's incontrovertible. Trump is making money by requiring government use of his facilities and services. The fact that you don't have a problem with it shows that you're a trump lickspittle but doesn't change the facts.

 

But he isn’t making money as has been well established he is losing money. He isn’t requiring the SS to follow him federal law is. At no point in history did we require that a president not be allowed to go to his home or play golf etc

 

In your mind does losing money imply that you make no money? Can you be stealing from your job and still not have enough to pay all of your bills?
Does any of the other bullshit you wrote negate the fact that he's making money because the SS is required to follow him? At what point do we say that a president has utilized too many tax payer dollars in leisure activity?

 

Yes...if I am losing money, I'm not making it...I'm in fact losing it...it's the opposite of making it. Gain v lose. Stealing from your job isn't making money...it's stealing.

That's a good question....I have no problem with you proposing legislation telling the President of the United States, that he can't take any vacations, play any golf, go to a bball game, etc....or visit his home....let's make the Oval Office a prison. Great idea.

 

In fact you can make money and still be net losing money. It happens all the freaking time - but you know this. And I didn't remotely infer that we "make the Oval Office a prison" - of course you know this too. Your response was nothing but silly trollshit. I'm done wasting time with you.

 

Know I really don't quite understand that concept. Sure you can get a money coming in, but if your outgoing is more then your incoming you aren't making money. You are in fact losing money. The Trump Organization has lost money since the President left the company, and became President...that's just a fact. President Trump is losing money personally, since becoming President because he doesn't have the income he used to...which is fine with him, because well he has enough.

Well let's hear your proposed legislation then....

 

Big ****ing deal!

Trump’s For-Profit Presidency Takes Ugly Turn as He Makes Money by Attacking Syria

How Much Will Trump Profit From the Presidency?
It could easily be in the billions. Here’s how.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2017/01/how-much-will-trump-profit-from-the-presidency.html

This OP has just confirmed how simple it is for Trump to fool his supporters with his not taking a salary shell game.

 

Actually, your claims are false.

It is very well known that Trump doubled the prices of his Mar A Lago estate the day after the election. He was preparing to soak you for the cost of putting up his entourage in his hotel and lining his pocket accordingly,

He did the same thing at Bedminster.

And, as I said before, spare us the excuse about Bevis and Butthead running the Trump Organization. Trump is the sole beneficiary of the Organization Trust and his can revoke it at any time. All the earnings go to him personally.

Of course, this is small change. Trump spent most of the 2016 campaign trying to get a deal with Putin's friends for a Trump Tower Moscow, including offering Putin a $50 million condo gratis as a sweetener. Just the thing for a US Presidential candidate to be doing.

Of course, the Russians diddled him and then dropped the deal. It has been a fantasy of Donald's for some time.

But the Russians don't see the value in building a condo tower for money laundering in a country that people are trying to launder money out of! Trump doesn't seem to get that......