VERIFY: Yes, Trump has never taken a presidential paycheck

Gotcha...so the claim that he is doing this to take the charitable deduction is just wrong. He simply is only take a $1 pay and then issuing the rest of certain departments. Good for him. Essentially he is living off what he has saved, and off his investments....like a retired person.

 

Do you think the 'contributions' were made in Trump's name? Giving him tax deductions?

 

How much did Obama donate and how much did his vacations cost? He donated zippity doo dah, and his trips cost a **** ton more. Flying back and forth to property you own is very different than flying around the world on your vacations. Same as Bush before him. Dude vacationed in his own house.

 

Both true believers who thrill at the bloke's alleged largesse and realists who contextualize his philanthropic gestures can agree that he need only keep his repeated promise to come clean with his tax returns to sustain the former or facilitate the latter.

The objective, empirical data is available, and he has vowed to share it.

Why is he not generous with the truth?

Release his tax returns after an audit is completed

“I’m under a routine audit and it'll be released, and as soon as the audit is finished it will be released."


https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...elease-his-tax-returns-after-audit-completed/​

 

Diversions, however desperate, are not viable.

 

Whether the business has made or lost money since he got elected is beside the point.

The point is that he is putting taxpayer money into his own pocket. And yes, that can be supported. A few seconds on Google would have given you confirmation.

https://projects.propublica.org/paying-the-president/

Note that Trump's administration is actively trying to hide how much federal money is spent at Trump properties. From the link: "Federal taxpayer data is incomplete because agencies are fighting disclosure."

 

Sure it is...the claim is that he is getting rich off the office...he in fact is losing money...not just the company he has an investment in, but his personal wealth. The very claim in your link, the first paragraph, is that the President is set to gain a lot personally.
Considering his home(s) are both in Trump properties...Trump Tower and Mar-Largo...obviously some money will be going to the Organization. The President has every right to go to his home, and play golf, at courses he likes.

 

Obama donated more than $1 million of his own money to charity during his presidency. As a percentage of either net worth or income, he was FAR more generous than Trump.

I have no problem with Bush vacationing in his own house. But it wasn't a commercial property, and he wasn't funnelling money into his own business when he went there. Trump is.
I also have no problem with presidents taking vacations at places they don't own. Not everyone was born with a silver spoon in their mouth as Trump and Bush Jr were.

 

Don't put words in my mouth.

I did not claim that Trump is getting rich off the presidency. We can't know either way, because he is concealing his tax returns.

My claim was that he is shovelling taxpayer money into his own pocket. Which he is. The president is directing federal money into his own pocket. That should be outrageous for every patriot. Actually, every patriot does find it outrageous.

And you are wrong. He DOES have a choice. In order to avoid conflict of interest / corruption, he could insist that the federal government is not allowed to spend ANY money at any of his properties while he is president. That would be the ethically correct thing to do. So there is a 0% chance that he will do it.

 

You posted a link that said he was gaining personally....I figured if you posted the link, that's what you were saying.

Somehow NBC knows...https://www.nbcnews.com/business/bu...ion-personal-wealth-running-president-n916221

and Forbes https://www.forbes.com/sites/danale...gto-get-rich-off-his-presidency/#b4a88173b1aa

That's just a silly position...no other President had to do that. The President has every right to go to his home, putting a new standard on this President is just outlandish, and highlights the increased bitterness of the left.

 

Lol...No, he has his head planted firmly inside the Saudis' ass and he is doing backward somersaults trying to excuse their murder of Khashoggi.

 

He certainly does stand to gain personally when the federal government puts money in his pocket.

That is a different question than whether his business is, overall, gaining or losing money. He is certainly trying to get rich off the presidency - but it looks like he miscalculated.

And no, it is not a silly position. When people have a potential conflict of interest, they (should) take steps to eliminate the conflict. I am not saying that he should not be allowed to go to his home, but he could take steps to ensure that the federal government does not put money into his pocket. For example, by insisting that his staff stay elsewhere, by providing fee accommodation. He could also use Camp David instead of Mar A Lago. He could play golf at different courses rather than his own.

The real problem is that you want to give him a pass for corruption / conflict of interest because you like him. That demonstrates a lack of principles on your part.

 

But as already highlighted he is LOSING MONEY...NOT GAINING! And losing a lot.

you are certainly saying he can't go home, because if he goes to either of his homes, SS has to go, they have to also have security, and his homes happen to be on on property owned by the company he used to run. You are also saying he can't go to the golf course of his choice. He certainly could use Camp David, but he isn't at all required to....he can go home. Also no...the SS can't stay in some hotel across town, they hae to stay with the President.

 

Proves nothing, the majority of folks who give their time and money you never hear about it.

 

No, not like normal middle-income retired people because they’ll receive an income from their investments on which they’ll be assessed for tax. I expect his finances are managed quite differently which is why I believe he had to refuse the Presidential salary because it could end up costing him more in overall tax than it’s worth. If he could have taken the full Presidential salary without that tax impact, it seems perfectly likely he would have done.

The “contributions” are just money moving from one government department to another – Trump as a private individual never had it to give. Even if it was money from Trump to a government department, I doubt that would count as a charitable donation for tax purposes anyway (the US government isn’t a registered charity). This whole question is just a misunderstanding due to the deliberately misleading presentation of the situation by Trump and the equally deliberately shadowy nature of financial management for the very rich.

 

Not the point.

As president, he is shovelling money into his own pocket - and his administration is fighting all attempts to uncover how much he is shovelling in.

That is outrageous to every patriot.

 

The butthole has our government and foreign governments pouring money into his properties, so what does he need with an entirely undeserved presidential paycheck? It's chump change next to all of his emoluments and Russian money laundering.

 

Release his tax returns after an audit is completed

“I’m under a routine audit and it'll be released, and as soon as the audit is finished it will be released."


https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-...elease-his-tax-returns-after-audit-completed/


Again, all his devotees need to do is convince him that keeping his repeated promise and coming clean with his tax returns will only accrue to his glory as a philanthropist of yooj largesse.

"My charity bought this gorgeous icon, and I'm entitling it
'THE GIVER!'"


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No One Wanted Trump’s Portrait So His Charity Had to Buy It
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...r-defends-payments-against-self-dealing-claim

 

No one forces him to go to Mar a Lago.

 

Reading this thread shows me how dishonest TRumpsters are. The OP is a sham!

 

1) that's just pure speculation.
2) agreed, he never had it, he refused it...so that the Govt could benefit more. Kudos. I agree, he can't take the charitable deduction.

 

Getting back to "us".

He's bowing to Putin!

You Trumpsters are the only people on the planet that don't see how clearly compromised he clearly is.

 

But the facts show he isn't shoveling money...the job is costing him money personally, and his former company as well. He is doing the opposite of getting "rich" off the Office.

The GAO reported the amount spent...I'm sure there are FOIA request as well, which isn't uncommon for Admins to fight...Judical Watch famously did with Obama.

 

Are you being intentionally obtuse?

There is a big distinction between:
a. Trump's businesses making profits; and
b. Trump directing federal money into his own pocket.

b is unethical - corruption - regardless of whether or not Trump's businesses turn a profit.

Trump is corrupt and you don't care. You probably don't care because you like him, but you are justifying his corruption on the basis that his overall business may be worth less than it was worth before he became president. That is a bizarre justification: "You might take a financial hit if you run for office, but you can drain government coffers to offset your loss. That will be OK with me."

 

I was about to ask you...as I sad he personally is losing money. You’ve shown no evidence of his corruption.