Co-Founder of Greenpeace RIPS Ocasio-Cortez: “Pompous Little Twit… You Would Bring About Mass Death”

Stop propagandizing the forum on behalf of the Orange Oaf.

I have nothing but contempt for that woman.

 

Which ones are those? That are, or will be ready to take over the load of the entire US power grid, and power all cars, trucks, and trains in the US. In 5 years.

 

You lose impact when you use the same word repeatedly in your posts.
Odd the occasional alt-leftie would dislike "that woman" She seems to have bi partisan support from the democrat party which she has taken over, and all the conservatives I know think she is better than Christmas.

 

A self-driving electric short-term rental car that drives itself to an automated charging station might be the future in cities, but at this point it makes little sense to anticipate pressing ahead for electric tractors. If we have a revolutionary change in battery technology, maybe we can think in terms of electric technology in applications where fossil fuels have such obvious advantages.

 

and with all this electric technology you speak of you forget that electricity has to be produced some how from some where

 

You've conceptualized "action" and "inaction" as a dichotomy that must be influenced by some sort of decree. It's not. Action in the sense that can be successful must be organic. Organic decisions are not grand sweeping commands that are centrally imposed on the entire system from the top down. In fact they rely on on billions of tiny inconsequential decisions that effect the entire system from the bottom up. No one unit in the system has any idea at all how the entire system functions. They operate in their own local sphere.

The reason for this is that local operators are immediately responsible for bad local choices. Removed Central authorities are never immediately responsible for poor removed demands.

 

She doesn't have much support in the party and she's cooking her goose by threatening to primary moderate Drmocrats. The Ocasio-Cortez popularity is a media creation to sell prescription drugs to worried old people who can't disconnect from the created conflict.

I included her picture because she's an awful witch--just look at her face.

 

But the hippies wont let us build modern nuke plants and they keep demanding we shut down our existing plants. Theyve recently picked off a few even.

 

Solar may provide a lot of it. Fuel cells? Maybe. Wind? Some. Tidal? Some. Fusion? Wouldn't that be great? But I think we can backstop all of it with nuclear power.

 

Lead is recycled because it takes more energy to refine ore than reuse refined metal. Lead sulfide is relatively abundant and easy to process regardless.

How much value do you assign a piece of paper?

But lead is not the only part of a battery that is consumed as a result of its use. There's enough acid to kill a good deal of wildlife. There's enough plastic (made from fossil resources btw) to choke a good number of sea turtles (or whatever sea life people pretend to really care about these days). There's glue and paint and solvents.

The production of these things has an environmental cost, just like the use of fossil fuels has one. The idea that someone can predict the environmental impact of a complete rapid switch from portable hydrocarbon use to portable electrochemical cell use is insane at it's core.

 

You now seem to be sliding toward misogyny. Really bad week?

 

There certainly does need to be a measured approach, but there must be an approach to further technology. Alternatives aren't going to be magically viable out of the gate. That fact does not make the technology unworthy of pursuing though. It's imperative that they are pursued and refined.

 

Yeah, he left Greenpeace in 1986.

At this point, Moore's opinion (essentially) means nothing.

 

Nor is it being cultivated using low energy means. ha ha My grandpa gave up his mules and manure for fertilizer before I was even born, and I am getting close to age 77. ha ha

 

Action--getting the collective involved--is only required where inaction isn't preferable. The coming of the motor vehicle resolved cities having to deal with horsesh't filling streets.

Sometimes inaction--waiting for "organic decisions" to solve problems--may not be preferable to taking collective action. Regulating the Spectrum for the benefit of all comes to mind.

 

He's a paid shill and the OPs article is pure right-winged propaganda.

 

solar? you do realize you have to destroy 10 times the amount of land to produce half the electricity that one conventional power plant does and lets not forget solar only works when the sun is out and we wont even add in the fact that solar farms kill tens of thousands of birds a year so no solar isn't the answer

Wind? only a very small percentage of America is conducive to using wind and they kill just as many birds a year as solar farms
then you add in the health factor of low frequency sound that these wind turbines emit on human and animal health

Nuclear? there hasn't been a nuclear power plant built for decades and many current ones are being taken off line thanks to liberals

 

"Hippies?" A dated term. The mob are modern day Luddites. Many of them oppose everything. They don't like hydroelectricity, nuclear energy, pipelines, natural gas, wind farms because they kill birds, and on and on. Many of them are going from project to project looking for a political win.

 

Whoa! Solar as it is right now? No. Solar as it may be the the future? A different matter. Improved batteries may be a game changer.

Why do I get the feeling your objections are a stalking horse for ignoring global warming.

 

This article is not referring to the British astronomer!!!It is the Canadian one time long ago environmentalist.

 

we have ten years todo all this according to Ocasio-Cortez because that is how long she gave us to get rid of fossil fuels

 

You lead with a dishonest claim? Really?

You have Ocasio-Cortez on the brain.

Oh, please. You stretch legislation, advised or not, to deal with at most a few thousand abortions into a claim Democrats are okay with billions of people starving?

You're looking more and more like a spent force.

 

Oh, how did I know that someone would say "let the free market fix it"? It's not like I haven't had these discussion before.

1) The "free market" is not a business plan, and shouldn't be for the worlds largest economy and its most important resources -- energy.
2) The free market cannot fix the fundamental physical problem that renewables have lower energy density than fossil fuels.
3) If it was for the free market, fossil fuels wouldn't be in the dominant position they are in today, pushed by decades of government subsidies.
4) The free market can't fix the fundamental problem that the low hanging fruit has been picked. Future oil is getting harder and harder to pump.

So, stay in your dreamworld of the free market. I'd rather develop a plan to be prepared when the fossil fuel shi# hits the fan.

 

and here were you are wrong once renewable energy become competitive through discovery and innovation it will replace fossil fuel
see the free market is about profit and if renewable energy becomes more profitable then it will replace the less profitable fossil fuel its that simple

 

AOC is an easy target. She's too dumb to know what she doesn't know. AOC/trump different sides of the same coin.