Ocasio-Cortez Fundraising Email: Let's End The US-Israeli Relationship

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    Well, if you thought there would be a day where the far left wing of the House Democratic caucus would quiet down a bit, given their anti-Semitism issues, you’d be wrong. Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) sent a fundraising email last night suggesting that AIPAC was coming after her and that the U.S.-Israeli relationship should be severed. No, I’m not kidding. This is insanity. AOC has been one of the few defenders of Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN), who once again was accused of anti-Semitism for suggesting those who support Israel are exhibiting dual loyalty. The latter is a common anti-Semitic smear. Omar has also peddled the talking point about Jewish money and influence with her “all about the Benjamins” tweet.


    So, after days of anti-Semitic theater, AOC decided to blast this fundraising email (via NTK Network):


    AOC was targeted stupidly for what she wore during orientation and her inability to pay for a D.C. apartment. But on policy, she’s fair game. And recently, she’s been peddling some straight up idiocy on policy......snip~


    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...nship-n2542807



    Ahahahahaha…..AOC says the Jewish Boogieman is coming after her. [​IMG] So she wants to end the US/Israeli policy. This is how ignorant she really is. What say ye?
     
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    First it was Republicans and Conservatives are coming for her.....then White People.....and now the JOOS are out to get her.

    Anyone else sensing a pattern here? :roflol:
     
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    To a Democrat, conservatives, white people, and Jews are the same thing. They are all to be eliminated.
     
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    I wonder if Ilhan Omar already donated.
     
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    We know Democrats say they would rather support the KKK then Israel. They both sound the same when they talk about the Jews too.
     
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    Oh.... yeah... most of us are seeing a pattern on PF.com since this woman came to Congress..

    Oh yeah...

    :roflol:
     
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    Don't forget they support Hamas and Hezbollah too.
     
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    They align with Americas enemies like Iran and their Russian allies.
     
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    Yes, that pattern wherein the Leftness can't hide their screw ups. Should have known that pattern from the beginning.
     
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    And when they do screw up they all give them a pass and blame the Jews for making them apologize.
     
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    If not Jews.....then clearly Republicans.

    AOC should at the very least let Tlaib know she can't donate goats.
     
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    I disagree. The issues that the new congresspeople are focusing on need to be addressed.
    The traditional policy of playing lapdog to the Israelis while demonizing the Palestinians has been an abject failure and calling any criticism of Israeli actions antisemitic is counter-productive. The same goes for the green new deal and all the other initiatives that they are promoting.
    Whether you like it or not, the agenda is shifting among the younger voters and they are starting to take their place in the world and demanding that all the issues that keep getting swept under the rug or kicked down the road by those with vested interests are going to take center stage.
    Their ideas and judgement are still evolving and they will make mistakes, but it's their future to shape and I applaud their idealism and courage.
    They will do more to drain the swamp than your boy trump ever could.
     
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    No matter how hard our collection of disloyal Israel Firsters try to obfuscate the fact, America's unconditional support for Israeli ethnic cleansing, war crimes & aggression is not in America's best interests.

    What part of Bibi's honest assessment of the US - Israeli alliance do they not understand:

    Netanyahu: “Once we squeeze all we can out of the United States, it can dry up and blow away”

    http://web.archive.org/web/20060512234448/http://www.onlinejournal.org/Special_Reports/092105Madsen/092105madsen.html
     
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    "“In this administration and all others, there should be no special relationship or status,” the email said. “We should actively check anti-Semitism, anti-blackness, homophobia, racism, and all other forms of bigotry.”"

    That's not anti-semitic.
     
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    Still allowed to be bigoted against conservative white males, though, right?
     
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    Where to start... First, "lapdog to the Israelis". What does that actually mean? That we find it appropriate to provide our financial and military support to ensure that a people won't be wiped from the map? That the US continues to agree that absent our support of Israel, the Islamic world around them would continuously persecute and otherwise attempt to slaughter them where they sleep?

    Perhaps some hard truths then need to be expressed here. When Palestinians engage in terrorism, why should we support that, in your mind? If, as you've indicated here, the US continue to demonize Palestinians, do you not agree that there is ample and sufficient cause? More, do you suppose that all folks who support Israel also don't also support a peaceful Palestinian component of that country?

    You make exactly the fallacy you criticize when you fail to differentiate what folks in this country are unwilling to support vis a vis Palestinians, and then apply the same standard to support of Israel and your baseless assertions about it.

    I wasn't alive for the holocaust. But, I have met enough survivors and have traveled to enough of the intern camps to know that what happened then, in Europe can just as easily happen again in the ME. And that given the ability to do so, ie removing US support for Israel, it will be done again.
     
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    Care to discuss the topic?
     
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    Lapdogs how so?

    I'd say it was anti semitic but you seem damn proud of it.

    Green new deal promising? Utter insanity.
     
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    There it is Right from the beginning there is false construct. The US doesn't play Israel's Lap Dog. That just isn't happening with one of our best customers. Who provides us with one of the best at Intelligence throughout the world.

    Naturally the New Demo Congress people of the left just don't know history nor the reality that takes place with the US. Like our anti Americans. They jump on the 30 second soundbite. Thinking they have insight into Israel and the M.E. Taking up the charge of what problems the US causes.

    I noticed you missed those young people on the Right and their ideas. Who are looking to take their place in the World as Leaders and not as victims. That aren't afraid to go indepth on any issue out there. While not allowing leftists to sweep history and facts under the rug. Nor allow them to kick the can down the road.

    But it is funny how the leftness does all they can to shut down their free speech. Afraid to debate them. Trembling that the message of the Young Guns rings more true than accepting the mantle of a victim of circumstance.
     
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    Where is the link to Netanyahu saying that?

    As your link is to this issue and doesn't say anything about the US/Israeli alliance.

    The demise of global communications security
    The neocons' unfettered access to America's secrets
    .....

    http://web.archive.org/web/20060512...pecial_Reports/092105Madsen/092105madsen.html

    That link doesn't have anything to do with what Netanyahu thinks of the US.

    But here is one that does.


    Netanyahu to Bolton: Israel Has No Greater Friend than the US and Vice Versa
    August 20, 2018


    It’s a wonderful alliance and Israel believes that it has no greater friend and ally than the United States and I believe that the United States has no greater friend and ally than Israel. It’s a peculiar kind of ally. We’ve consistently increased our defense spending. We insist on defending ourselves by ourselves and appreciate all manner of American support, but we believe that the alliance is the alliance of the strong and like-minded and we share America’s values of freedom and liberty.

    Ambassador Bolton, Israel is also grateful for the Trump administration’s unequivocal support for Israel in international forums, and on international issues. We hear it every day, on the podiums in the White House, in the State Department, at the United Nations. This is deeply, deeply appreciated, and deeply valued.

    We appreciate as well the continued American commitment to maintaining Israel’s qualitative military edge, which enables us to defend ourselves by ourselves against any threat......snip~

    https://www.jewishpress.com/news/us...friend-than-the-us-and-vice-versa/2018/08/20/
     
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    Sure.. if you'd like.. I read her full email and in no way, shape, or form does it say what is stated in the thread title.. So the whole thread is invalid... not the fault of the poster, but the "author" of the URL..

    AOC says enough weird things that you guys shouldn't need to resort to complete fabrications..

    Better?
     
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    On it's face it doesn't appear to be anti-Semitic, but when the special relationships we have with certain countries is only called into question when it concerns Israel then it's fair to question what motivates the people who single that one particular country out. You never hear these complaints raised when we discuss the special relationships we have with Canada, Liberia and other countries and people.

    Personally, I don't think AOC's comment is anti-Semitic, but I do think it is naive, foolish and completely ignorant of reality. The fact is, we have had special relationships with certain countries since the dawn of the Republic and with those special relations comes special status, and it's not in the interest of our country to sever those special relationships and what comes with them on account of a congresswoman whose own allegiances are in question and another extremist who is rushing to her defense.
     
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    Pure propaganda.

    Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) is calling for an end to the United States’ special relationship with Israel while the House debated condemning all forms of hate speech, including anti-Semitism, on Thursday.

    The House of Representatives was debating condemning anti-Semitism on Thursday because of anti-Semitic comments made by Ocasio-Cortez’s friend and fellow member of Congress, Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN), which were directed at the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC).

    “It’s official — AIPAC is coming after Alexandria, Ilhan, and Rashida,” the email said. “Rashida, Ilhan, and Alexandria have times dated to questions out foreign policy, and the influence of money in our political system. And now, lobbying groups across the board are working to punish them.”

    The email then asked for people to contribute to help “keep up the fight against lobbying and special interests of all forms in Washington.”

    The email then appeared to call for an end to the United States’ special relationship with Israel.

    “In this administration and all others, there should be no special relationship or status,” the email said. “We should actively check anti-Semitism, anti-blackness, homophobia, racism, and all other forms of bigotry.”

    The quotation provided does not "appear" to do that. It clearly says that there should be "no special relationship or status," and goes on to oppose anti-Semitism and other forms of bigotry. It is up to the reader (and the propaganda outlet, it would appear) to interpret this statement as they please. It could just as easily apply to Saudi Arabia, the UK, to European countries and the EU, you name it.
     
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    Pardon me for truncating your post but I have to agree with you - the title of the Townhall article is misleading. I don't know that it makes the whole thread invalid, but the thread title is clearly invalid.

    Clearly, she's calling for an end to the U.S.'s special relationship with Israel - she just diluted it in a foolish call to end all the special relationships we've had with some countries over the years. What she didn't say was that we should end our relationship with Israel entirely, which is what the title of the article suggests.
     
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    Note Talon's post in Post 24. Clearly she is calling to end the US's Special relationship with Israel. Despite her not using the words Lets End the Relationship.


    From Ben Jacobs of the Guardian.


    Ben Jacobs‏Verified account @Bencjacobs 21h21 hours ago




    And Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is now raising money by saying AIPAC is coming for her and comparing the bipartisan consensus on the US-Israel relationship to the Iraq War.

    [​IMG]



    Clearly she was talking about Israel. Even stating some members questioning support for the US-Israeli relationship is Unacceptable. There should be no Special relationship or status.....with who is she talking about again. Oh that's Right Israel.
     
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