My 2020 prediction

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  1. JakeStarkey

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    The opposition to the OP is based on fond hopes and delusions.

    The Dems will win Maine, New Hampshire and New Mexico, possibly Iowa, keep Virginia, and re-take Minnesota, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.
     
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    The dems are going to run on Healthcare and his personality and his inability to compromise with the repubs and dems in congress. The economy is strong and that is going to be an obstacle if it remains that way for 18 more months.
     
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    Look I defend Trump a lot more than most of the posters here on the left, buthe is loved by a very vocal minority and hated by and equally vocal minority. It is the middle 3 that he has to convince to a majority of to stay as president.
     
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    The unemployment rate, economy and the border are big wins for Trump, him being pro America helps too. The 100% anti-borders, anti-America, TDS/Russia fake news and people like AOC and especially the racist Omar that painted the left into a corner with the left being unable to denounce anti-Semitism seems like the end of the lefts chances of anything in 2020. It truly is a pleasure to watch.
     
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    To call trump's supporters and voters simple minded fools, well, you are doing what hillary did, in calling them deplorable.

    While I supported Sanders, in vote and money, I called the election for trump, against all of the pundits and the hillary people here, and against MSM. And I called it for trump because of what I saw with the Sanders campaign, and why he got such great support and contributions even as the democratic party, MSM and the DNC were working hard against him, in a most undemocratic manner. Think a corrupt banana republic.

    There were too many people wanting change, and wanting to be represented, which according to the Princeton Study, was not happening. Hillary would not represent these people, and only a delusional minded person would think that she would. 63 millions of them in fact. Of course she would have represented the upper middle and upper class, but as Princeton revealed, congress nor presidents were representing anyone but special interests, and our elites.

    While trump voters probably did not know about what Princeton revealed, using congressional record, they were intelligent enough to notice what hillary voters were clueless about. That DC was not representing them, neither the establishment Gop or DP. And so because of this, sanders ran a strong campaign against hillary, and trump was the answer on the GOP side. There was a hunger to be represented and there were enough people on the trump side to vote and to beat hillary.

    Trump is president because of those americans who realized they had been kicked to the curb, as well as the sanders supporters. Given this, I could call the election for trump. And I did, and he won.

    So, your take is so off base, and IMO, you are not really paying serious attention to what happened in 2016. And why trump won. Relegating it to simple minded people will not help your side, if you are a democrat. One would think by now even the most dense democrat would have understood what drove trump's win. To not see it will not help the dems in 2020.

    The dems will probably not win, just by running against trump. They best start actually representing those americans that the DP kicked to the curb, working americans who are still suffering from the greed of our elites and this scheme of globalism and depressing their wages by allowing illegal immigrants into our economy, and not talking about fruit pickers.
     
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    The 100% lying about Dems on borders (they do want sensible security), are certainly pro-America (more so than the far right populists), and the GOP still insisting that Trump is innocent (laughter rocks the room) is most amusing.

    That people are crying about 1st-term representatives is cute.

    The far right is terrified of what is coming next year for them and Trump.
     
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    I just hope people get out and vote, but your right, if people are stupid enough to not get out and vote, we will have Trump for another term

    personally I think Trump winning in 2016 was a perfect storm, I do not think lighting will strike twice for the man
     
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    They're opinions aren't BAD, they are just a different point of view, that you would describe them as such reinforces my point. I don't blame the for being angry at this constant condescension and sneering they suffer and that's what they vote for Trump.
     
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    Who knows... you are right though about fixing stupid... here's the crap your politicians sell you

    Beto "
    Two completely unrelated statements..... 1. problem statement
    2. no solution... just let's hold hands and it will all go away.
    and people lap this rubbish up like candy
     
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    So, people are voting to harm our country in the long run just to spite some other people in the short-term.

    Idiocracy.
     
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    Ironic since BLOTUS supporters are ALLERGIC to facts!
     
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    Only the gullible believe that the BLOTUS represents them.

    The BLOTUS is self centered and greedy and does not give a crap about anyone but himself. He is the beneficiary of the Obama economic recovery and the ONLY contribution that he has made was 100% to benefit the wealthy and the corporate elite. His tax bill actually HARMED hardworking Americans.

    To vote for him in 2020 would be ultimate in self denial of reality.
     
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    Ironic projection given that your beloved BLOTUS is the one who has been condescending to women and sneering when it comes to the media, our allies and American minorities.

    But don't let those FACTS stop the regurgitation of extreme rightwing hypocrisy!
     
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    I think you are WY overestimating the intellect of his base. To compare them is unnecessarily cruel to stupid folks..
     
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    There is no fixing the kind of stupid that actually allows you folks to believe Trump is a sucess. He's a blithering idiot and you look up to him. There's no fix for that.
     
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    They're NOT harming the country, they just have another viewpoint, that you dislike things they do doesn't make them wrong. They're doing this for the long term good of the country because they see YOU as harming it.
     
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    Or just interpret them differently?
     
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    Or to vote against him would be the same?
     
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    And you are the reason people vote for Trump! "Oh, anyone who disagrees with us is stupid!", and you wonder why?
     
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    What exactly has gone so wrong for the US under Trump? What EXACTLY? People know he's an idiot but so much more preferable to the alternative.
     
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    At least they can spell the word 'you'. And "you're". And 'fellate'? And you call Trump supporters idiots? And you're just blustering to dodge the question because you have no answer.
     
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    I don't find how immigration and the border is a win for Trump. He has done nothing from the Employer side to decrease the possibility of the illegal immigrants from getting a job.
     
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    Liberal facts, you know, those fevered conspiracy theories.
     
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    We see he clearly cares a hell of a lot more about fixing the border than any other politician in US history.
     
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    That is pretty much my take also. Trump ran against the only candidate for president who was more unpopular among the population than what he is now. Besides segments of the party that were loyal to her for her strides towards empowering woman most dems held their noses. Some Bernie supporters stood away as a protest to the treatment he received by her and the DNC.

    Some people thought the Trump that was on stage was part of his TV apprentice personality and that he would be a breath of fresh air. Well that air turned stale as it was found that he actually is a boor. The anti establishment vote is something that he can not claim next year.
     
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