Breaking news: Julian Assange arrested in London

There is actually no evidence of that. It may very well be the case or it may be that Assange was telling the truth when he said his source was not the Russians and it was not a hack. He has eluded to it being a source inside the DNC....... He could very well be taking about the Pakistani IT computer helpdesk analyst that was employed by many Democrats, including Debbie Wassrman-Schultz.

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-15/disappearing-democratic-scandal-part-1

I would imagine that most Democrats and especially Hillary Clinton do not want this exposed to the light of day.

 

Not sure why Hillary would be troubled about that. Putin might not like it, though.

 

How would you know about classified evidence?

 

Because it exposes her and the FBI under Comey for perpetrating a lie and running with it to make the Russian threat look bigger than it actually was. They may have used this lie as leverage to start the investigation into Russian meddling.

Putin doesn't give a rip one way or the other. As long as he causing trouble in the US, he is happy.

 

You're getting pretty desperate when you're hoping for Assange to put Hillary behind bars.

 

I never said that but you know that.

Are you worried Hillary will wind up behind bars?

 

Nope. It wouldn't even bother me if it did happen, assuming it was justified.

But you're not batting for Team America when you obsess over her like this. Putin doesn't like her for various reasons, and he turned that into a disinformation campaign within the United States to harm her in the 2016 election. Trump's nomination was a real boon to all that and to Russian hostilities against us in general, since our so-called leader evidently refuses to acknowledge the problem, let alone combat it.

2020 will be another sh*tshow.

 

The actionable offense occurred on US soil (where the server was) and the nation he was in agreed to extradite so.... not really

 

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Your comments in relation to a "Fair Trial" are a bit of an oxymoron. Using the terms "fair trial" and Kangaroo court in the same sentence.

"Fair trial" is not even close to an oxymoron. NOT EVEN CLOSE. Apparently you do not understand what an oxymoron is.

As for "using the terms 'fair trial' and Kangaroo court in the same sentence"...the only person I've seen do that...IS YOU.

I certainly never did.

Now, go to that "playground" you mentioned and play...or get real.

 

I think it would bother you immensely. Clinton and the DNC colluded with Russia (and other countries) so she could very well wind up in some hot water. She should be nervous. Bill Barr is in charge and this greatly worries her.

2020 will be another Trump victory.

 

Yes you did - you used the term "Fair Trial" and the US justice system in the same sentence. US justice system = Kangaroo land - especially with respect to cases involving those who out Gov't criminality.

The term "Fair Trial" and "US Justice System" in the same sentence was the oxymoron - because the US Justice system is a a third world kangaroo system - in cases like the ones in question.

I know you may find this reality troubling - and understandably so - but, this is a demonstrable fact.

If you are interested - you can start here.

https://www.rt.com/usa/313662-whistleblowers-sue-doj-fbi-nsa/

 

I don't know which is more disturbing, Assange being arrested or so many people not being able to see any problem with it.

Oh well, like Benjamin Franklin said, "a democracy, if you can keep it".
People get the government they deserve.

 

Correct. That is why no indictment for the DNC/HC emails or for publishing the information from Manning. The indictment is for his alleged participation in procuring it. That would be illegal.

 

Julian went below and beyond mere journalism, essentially, and that is why he is under arrest and facing charges. Not for publishing information.

Have a little faith in our justice system, for crying out loud.

 

Perhaps but, Assange did not do that. I thought otherwise from reading some of the articles - as the wording is very vague. In digging deeper - the actual Charge against Assange is not even in relation to hacking of the information - or the release of that information.

The charge is that Assange helped Manning cover his tracks after the fact - apparently to do this - a password is needed. How Assange would have helped I do not know and apparently there is no physical evidence to back up the accusation.

This supposedly all happened after Assange had received the information - so had nothing to do with the actual procuring of that information.

 

Try to get under control.

I did NOT use "fair trial" and "Kangaroo court" in the same sentence. YOU did.

If you hate this country so much you must consider our judicial system to be a kangaroo court...fine with me.

And...ummm...where did I use the terms "fair trial" and "US Justice System" in the same sentence.

 

You are the one not batting for Team America by characterizing criticism of our Gov't as shilling for Putin.

Russiagate is being used to and excuse to clamp down on freedom of the press, freedom of information, freedom of speech and to engage in censorship.

When the engage in ad hom demonization of those who criticize Gov't criminality - all you are doing is supporting the effort to violate essential liberty.

 

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You said "He should come back here...and get a fair trial"

Who is he going to be tried by - if other than the US Justice System" ?

 

YOU said that I had used "fair trial" and "kangaroo court" in the same sentence.

I said I did not. AND THE FACT IS....I DID NOT.

YOU then said I had used "fair trial" and "the US Justice System" in the same sentence.

I questioned that, because I knew I had not. AND THE FACT IS...I HAD NOT.

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While you did not use the word "US Justice System" that is what is inferred by your statement...

"He should come back here and get a fair trial" - if "US Justice System" is not inferred by this sentence - what is the institution you are referring to - the one which is going to give this person a "fair Trial" ?

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If he participated in that manner he may have deep legal problems.

 

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I did not say either of the things you claimed I said.

I simply did not.

I said that I wanted him to get a fair trial...and I do. I want Assange to get a fair trial.

I cannot imagine any place on the planet where people get fairer trials than they get here in America. You seem to hate this country...and think that the jurors of this country will not be fair.

Fine...that is your right.

But if you claim I said something on this forum...you ought to start using the quote feature...and we can discuss why you disagree with what I actually wrote...
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He may indeed have deep legal problems.

There are people here in America who apparently DO NOT want his to get a fair trial. They want him to be exonerated without a trial.

I want Assange to get a fair trial.

I think he will.

 

The folks I was listening to did not think that the particular offense would warrant much time - anything is possible in a third would kangaroo justice system but - I don't see some really long sentence as very likely.

"Sans the impossible - which of course is possible" - He cant get a sentence longer than Manning - they guy who actually stole the info.

From what I understand they do not have any physical evidence connecting him that which he is being charged.

 

Jim Clapper lied to Congress (5 years sentence) yet he's got a gig on Fake News Network.

James Comey leaked confidential government docs (8 years sentence) yet he's on the same FNN and traveling around the country on a book tour.

Hillary mishandled confidential docs and obstructed justice when she sledgehammered the phones and deleted hard drives (way more than 8 years).....and that talking parrot is still out free.

I could go on.