I thought ignorance of the law wasn't a defense.

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  1. kriman

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    They can impeach. It just won't go anywhere.
     
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    Oh you mean the things that COULD be obstruction but not enough to prosecute on? Let's see how that works out then
     
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    it's about intent... Trump jr was too stupid to have such intent

    year right, caue Barr and Mueller are protecting Hillary over Trump jr's meeting... what???
     
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    Wrong yet again!

    That was NOT the "Hillary defense"!

    Hillary was NOT indicted because the law required INTENT which could not be proven.
     
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    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    No, it does NOT apply!
     
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    it will in the house, not the senete

    which is just what dems want, cause then they can tell their base they tried, then they never get the religious nut Pence as President and then can ask the people to get out and vote to fire Trump sense Republicans in the Senate wont do it
     
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    Same thing. The only way it could have had no intent was if she was ignorant of the law or she was unaware of the server in her closet. Otherwise, she intended to break the law.
     
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    there is no law against her using personal emails, the previous SOS did it and the current administration has done it, as well as the Trump children

    you can thank the republican Darrell Issa for allowing personal email use to this day

    http://thedailybanter.com/2015/03/f...egulation-hillary-clinton-allegedly-violated/

    1) Did Clinton break any laws by using a private email account, exclusively or otherwise?

    No. And we’ve known about her private email for a couple of years now after it was originally reported by Gawker. So, old news. Also, guess which lawmaker made sure personal email usage was permitted in the amendments to the Federal Records Act last year? Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA).
     
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  9. Lee Atwater

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    Which is the same as saying Senate Repubs will not vote to convict even though the evidence of obstruction, especially regarding the McGahn/Mueller firing episode, is rock solid.
     
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    Wrong!

    She never INTENTIONALLY used the server for classified information. What ended up on there was from other people or classified post facto.
     
  11. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    #44.
     
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    Wrong on ALL counts!

    100+ instances of members of the campaign in contact with the Russians.

    BLOTUS was NOT exonerated from Obstruction.

    Impeachment is still an option.
     
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    yep, I predict Impeachment in the house will happen around this time next year :)

    Congress has not even interviewed Mueller yet, no hurry, still many investigations in progress and as of right now, Trump is a lame duck President
     
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    Over two thousand classified documents were on her server. Exactly how long before she noticed it?
     
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    Are you going to count your comrades posts?
     
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    #45.
     
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    meaning she could not control the emails people sent to her, otherwise Trump could send a classified email to your personal email and have you arrested, saying you now have classified information on your device - sorry, that is not the way the law works
     
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    Just as phony and wrong as everything else you post. You start with an arbitrary and wrong number and then count as if they are accurate.
     
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    I think it was just hard to prove. He probably couldn't find anyone willing to say Jr. knew it was wrong.
     
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    However, after the first classified e-mail, I would be smart enough to realize it was wrong and either close the server or make it very clear to everyone that the server was not certified for classified. Apparently Hilary is not that smart.
     
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    Sometimes intent makes all the difference. Ain't that grand.
     
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    I think ultimately the Dems will be forced to impeach, just to try and send the message that no one is above the law.
    But. I think Nancy has the right idea to use the investigations to educate the public first.
     
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    exactly, we shoudl be in no hurry, wait for the investigations to complete and Mueller, ect... to speak before Congress, I am fine waiting till around this time next year

    the drip drip drip of the email scandal destroyed Clinton, the drip drip drip of all the bad things Trump did\does will be his undoing too
     
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    But Hillary isn't the one out there making the US look like it is run by an incompetent, deranged nut job.
     
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    Only because she was not elected.
     
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    Trump isn't the guy running on a platform of giving the vote to convicted felons, illegal immigrants and children. Trump isn't the guy running on a platform based on the open hatred and contempt of white men. Trump isn't the guy running on a platform of taking away the guns of white people. As long as he is not that, he miles ahead of any of the Democratic hopefuls for a white man like myself.
     
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