I thought ignorance of the law wasn't a defense.

Mueller wrote in his report (with respect to Donnie J and the Trump Tower meeting), but couldn’t “prove beyond a reasonable doubt that these individuals acted ‘willfully,’ i.e., with general knowledge of the illegality of their conduct.” Specifically, prosecutors couldn’t prove “the participants in the meeting were familiar with the foreign-contribution ban or the application of federal law to the relevant factual context.”

Mueller’s findings: Too stupid to conspire. Too incompetent to obstruct.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...cfeff232e8f_story.html?utm_term=.ce98ce254a94

Isn't a reasonable read of Mueller's comments that Donnie J broke the law but gets a pass because he is too stupid to know he broke the law?

I don't know how else to interpret................"with general knowledge of the illegality of their conduct."

 

if it weren't for appeals to ignorance, the right wing would have no arguments at all.

 

I argued this with Ronv, something else caused the lack of indictments not ignorance of the law...

I don’t understand how more people aren’t upset with Mueller. It took him two years to come to a he might’ve he might not decision.

 

I’m right leaning and I too see something fishy with what Lee is talking about.......

 

Sometimes anger and frustration are best relieved by five or ten negative Trump posts per day.

 

Hilarious, and sadly spot on.

 

What was it?

 

Wasn't this the Comey defense of Clinton's server?

Intent is required in a lot of laws. Some laws, don't require an intent element.

 

if it weren't for appeals to ignorance, the left wing would have no arguments at all.

 

That depends on what the definition of "is" is.

 

Wasn't that the Hilary defense?

 

I don’t know definitively..... I can speculate but that’s about it

 

I’m not angry lol????? Speculation but maybe they didn’t investigate Trump jr because things they want to keep hidden (Russian Lawyers Ties with Hillary Clinton)

 

I am talking about the OP.

 

You mean like the well she didn't know any better excuse Comey gave Hillary for her clearly illegal actions?

 

It's not ignorance of the law that is the problem for the russian conspiracy theorists. The problem is that nothing of value was exchanged, and even if this dirt on Hillary had been handed over, there still is no crime. It's called opposition research, and perfectly legal.

 

Lorrie Loughlin and her husband are claiming the same ignorance of the law??

 

Your twisted obsession with Hillary is beginning to rival Don's.

This has to be the 40th time you've used that Hillary whataboutism. I suspect you'll use it another 40.........to the same fruitless effect.

https://warontherocks.com/2016/07/why-intent-not-gross-negligence-is-the-standard-in-clinton-case/

 

You made the statement. That was Hilary's defense.

 

This has to be the 40th time you've used that Hillary whataboutism. I suspect you'll use it another 40.........to the same fruitless effect.

Bingo, that's 41.

 

presidents can't be indicted, Mueller is a republican and did not think it fair to suggest he was guilty, he wants Congress to review his finding and decide for themselves

but let's be honest, having the meeting in Trump tower... pretty stupid.. talking about it on email.. pretty stupid

the Trump family is not the sharpest tools in the shed

 

That has nothing to do with Don jr

 

Trump is not only (obviously) IGNORANT, but he feels he is above the law.

And, his voters don't care.

 

You must be unaware of the e-mails between Donnie J and Goldstone that were used to set up the meeting. The one Donnie J thought was going to get him a big pat on the head from Dad when he produced the goods on Hillary the Russian government was going to give him.

 

It is not a whataboutism. You said "I thought ignorance of the law wasn't a defense." That was the Hilary defense and it did not bother you at all.