A Thread To Discuss White Supremacy

See, this is what's interesting and part of the reason I posted this thread.

Because on this forum, there is no shortage of threads on the most trivial things. For example, there was one where a model "assaulted" some dope in a airport because of his stupid hat. Just absurdly stupid. Not even close to being an assault. Just pathetic. There are threads like that all the time. These threads supposedly show how violent the crazy left is.

And yet with this, Trump supporters shrug it off. Post after post, it's this idea that this isn't even worth talking about. Even though we are not talking about knocking someone's hat off, we are talking about murder and the worst kind of hate.

One, if it's not worth talking about, why are you all even posting? Just to tell me it's not worth talking about?

Two, the position of Trump and his base on this topic is as transparent as a sheet of glass.

 

Look buddy...

it's not about making an argument that white supremacy is a bad thing. That's one of the stupidest things I've read on this forum. And that's saying something.

If that's the conversation you want to have, if your head is where Steve King's is at, well get thee to Storm Front or 8chan.

In this thread, it is a gawd damm given that white supremacy is bad. Every decent person, especially every decent American, knows that. The fact that that is in question on this forum shows where you all are at. The fact that Trump supporters and Trump himself can barely bring themselves to "disavow" white supremacists, or won't do it at all....really frickin SAD!

 

I don't know about any thread on a model who assaulted some dope in an airport, but those kinds of things are thrown up as an example of leftist violence. It's not an attempt to show an overarching theme because that's already assumed to be true.

I look at threads like that as another example of just how insane the left has become to other conservatives, rather than an attempt at convincing leftists that they are as violent as any of their socialist/communist bretheren.

Kinda like how that stalwart ally of the left down there in Venezuela just the other day ran over some protestors in an armored vehicle. It's not an attempt at debate with ya'll, but rather just giving ourselves a heads up that this is just one more example of what we have to look forward to if we don't crack down on the infestation at home.



This is what the left has in store for any dissidents once we are disarmed. Once we are defenseless, it's all over. So don't give them another bloody inch! They will do the same to us in America if given half the chance.

 

Yeah well, that sounds suspiciously like bigotry to me.

I thought you lefties didn't like bigots, and now one of you actually comes right out and admits it! lol!

 

Well it comes off as just another example of how insane the "right" is...

just a bunch of meaningless trivial bull, lies, propaganda, and giant leaps of insanity.

And you are going on about your supreme "white" logic?

 

According to kangaroo land, Norway and the US is the same place I guess.

 

Matt Bors has noticed your argument.

 

Logic is how civilized people argue. We debate using the time honored traditions of our ancestors, one of whom is Aristotle who gave us the gift of logic.

Would you prefer pistols at 20 paces? Machetes at dawn?

 

Oh wait wow, another Nazi reference. Boring as it it predictable.


Drool drool derp Nazis. You were saying??

 

Despite Trump's view, white nationalism is a growing threat, data shows
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-invasion-rhetoric-new-zealand-data-white-nationalism-1.5061919
According to the Anti-Defamation League, 98 per cent of extremist killings in the U.S. last year were tied to far-right extremists. Europol's annual EU Terrorism Situation and Trend Report last year found a near doubling in the number of people arrested for right-wing extremist offences in 2017.

And data from the nonpartisan Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University San Bernardino says that hate crimes in America's largest cities rose for the fifth consecutive year in 2018.

"In the U.S., far-right extremism has eclipsed violent Salafi jihadists," said the centre's director, Brian Levin. "The difference is white nationalism has emerged into a coalesced and growing socio-political force, with tentacles that extend into the mainstream. That's something many other extremist movements do not have."

Republican Congressman Steve King, for example, has openly mused that being labelled a "white nationalist"shouldn't be such a bad thing.

Levin testified before Congress four years ago about the extremist threat. At the time, he said Salafi jihadists represented the most prominent threat to the U.S., with far-right white nationalists coming second.

"That has flipped," he said on Monday.

Forty-nine out of 50 extremist-related killings in the U.S. last year were tied to white nationalists. One incident, a stabbing by a troubled Florida teen, involved the teen shouting about jihadist leanings, though the alleged perpetrator was also a former white supremacist.

All of which is to say that Trump — whose apparent concerns about Islam prompted his call in 2015 for a database to register Muslims and efforts to implement a travel ban — is mistaken about the growing danger of worldwide white-nationalist extremism, Levin said.

Researchers of racist ideology generally agree that Trump himself is not regarded as a white nationalist among far-right extremists. Even so, he's hailed as a vehicle for the politics of white nationalism. On 4chan and its sister website 8chan, Trump is known by the nickname "God Emperor."

"He has helped create space for white nationalist politics," said Matthew Lyons, an expert on the alt-right and author of Insurgent Supremacists: The U.S. Far Right's Challenge to State and Empire.

Trump is seen as useful to white nationalists; even if he isn't part of their cause, he has arguably helped them become more outspoken, Lyons said.

 

I'm all for logic.

Waiting for any Trump supporter to display some.

 

Do you, too, feel victimised by lefties to the degree that you have a need to defend white supremacy endlessly in thread after thread on the internet?

 

The OP asked for white supremacists, I stood up and doffed my hat.

For 6 pages now, I have seen nothing but lefties saying stupid stuff, and yet still no rebuttal. No "these are the reasons I think white supremacy is bad!".

As I said from the get-go, the onus isn't on me to explain why being a white supremacist is bad. That's an ethical argument that is extremely hard to make. All I have heard so far is that it is a priori bad, and well... yeah, it's just bad!".

Where's your logical argument? Honestly, I don't think you're capable because I've certainly goaded ya'll enough times to produce one.

Asking me where is my rebuttal to an argument that has yet to be made simply shows you aren't exactly edjumacated in the fine art of logical argumentation.

It's up to you lot, and I don't think it's a possibility for you to say put something after "white supremacy is wrong because".

I could if I really wanted, but that's because I know how to argue. However, I'm not going to jump in to help you. Just kinda laughing now at how I called you boyahs out, and you failed to answer.

 

Again, you conclude that I have done nothing of any merit, while obviously being completely ignorant of who I am or what I have done.

In logic, that's called ignoratio elenchi. Basically, it means being ignorant of logic.

You guys are really batting .000 today.

 

In regard to your pointless game, I'm not playing.

You haven't said a thing about the actual topic other than you claim to be a white supremacist. I don't even believe you are. I'd say more a racist troll.

So in reality, no one, including you, has stepped up and owned it.

 

Ha, too funny. Man those white supremacists sure are smart!

Black man becomes head of neo-Nazi group he intends to destroy
Call it a clever twist of fate, a shrewd power play, or simply comeuppance for one of the largest neo-Nazi groups in America.

Its new president is a black man — a California pastor and activist — with one goal in mind.

James Stern.
"Change it, reverse it, and ultimately destroy it," James Hart Stern told CNN in an interview Friday.
Stern says the former president of the Detroit-based National Socialist Movement, Jeff Schoep, turned the group over to him amid infighting by the group's core members, and to escape the threat of a lawsuit filed against NSM for its alleged role in the violent 2017 clashes in Charlottesville, Virginia.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/02/us/black-president-nazi-group/index.html

 

Of course you aren't playing. Hard to play the game when you don't know the rules.

I've explained as best as I'm able that the rules are logic, and it's up to you to explain why being a white supremacist is bad.

Now you're taking your ball and going home? I predicted that from the get-go, which is why I even bothered with this thread. Am I actually a white supremacst? Irrelevant, to be brutally frank. Quite often in debates, people are required to take one side or the other.

Did you know that there are debate teams? I bet you didn't know that. Well anyway, it isn't whether an individual on that team personally believes something to be true, but rather are they capable of arguing the point?

Give me any idea, and then assign me a pro or con side, and I'd consider it an intellectual tragedy if I wasn't capable of mounting a formidable defense. For every idea, there are pros and cons, and the point of a debate isn't to just call people names, but to actually figure out how to use the tools of logic to argue.

I could sit on the pro side of 'lucifer was a god fearing angel who was unjustly punished' and I would love it.

Am I actually a white supremacist? I've admitted to it, but now you find yourself in a cognitive corner, and the only out you have is to doubt me.

sigh... lefties... you guys really need to up your game.

 

Why dies the truth bother you. The Democratic party was the klan ugly step sister, and hand maid for nearly a hundred years. I don't know anyone here has a problem with jailing people who commit criminal acts however alot of people here have a problem with thought crimes.

 

Look, I don't care. You are playing this game with yourself. You might as well go to a porn site.

This thread isn't even about "debate"....

it's about the rise of white supremacy.

You, and most other Trump supporters, took extremely predictable positions. Deny, deflect, shrug, play games.

That, in and of itself, is you losing the "debate".

 

The truth, like logic, doesn't bother me.

If any of you Trumpers want to actually take a crack at truth and logic, be my guest.

If you want to continue to play typical games, know that the rest of us see right through you.

 

No no no because right is right and left is wrong see to the RW “the left” are just those people who are no better than they should be” Everything evil is on the left.

I used to think it was lazy thinking. A generalisation so broad you did not have to rationalise any further. Now I know it is about a basin neurophysiological response. Republicans respond by lighting up the
Amygdala which is your threat response. When they no longer feel threatened they tend to change to a more democratic stance. Keeping that threat level high keeps recruitment up maintains the base and basically stops logical thinking

What amazes me is how little it takes

Someone knocking someone’s hat off

 

Yep TRolling

 

I also mentioned Christchurch or did you think.....

 

I gave you the Truth you obviously aren't interested. Most so-called right wing Terrorist groups aren't logically any more right wing than you are.

 

https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/...rally/201611/are-white-men-really-the-problem

http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2016/12/08/elite-white-men-problem/

https://www.cnn.com/2017/10/03/opinions/mass-shootings-white-male-rage-modan-opinion/index.html

https://www.alternet.org/2013/01/americas-white-male-problem/

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/precious-star-old-white-men-problem/

https://www.salon.com/2015/12/22/wh...y_future_of_the_planet_depends_on_it_partner/

https://www.cnn.com/2017/05/25/us/too-many-white-men/index.html

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/white-men-dehumanising-insult-times/

https://futurism.com/biased-ai-problem-hire-fewer-white-males

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/d...rginalizing-groups-white-men-are-the-problem/

https://twitchy.com/brettt-3136/201...n-and-thats-a-problem-that-needs-to-be-fixed/

https://www.breitbart.com/clips/201...t-terror-threat-in-this-country-is-white-men/

Of course, as Joe (and lots of people have) pointed out, it's white men who hold the power and are a social problem. http://www.racismreview.com/blog/2014/01/28/trouble-white-women-white-feminism/

https://www.redstate.com/sister-toldjah/2019/03/14/‘white-man-problem’-beto-second-2020-hopeful-week-express-racial-gender-guilt/

https://www.menofthewest.net/white-men-indeed-problem-not-way-think/

https://www.infowars.com/msnbcs-brzezinski-white-men-with-guns-greater-threat-than-isis/

https://www.thenewamerican.com/cult...-u-professor-white-males-a-problem-population

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/cultural-comment/the-trouble-with-white-people

https://www.scarymommy.com/white-men-terrorists-are-real-threat-america/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...2adb6a-2efb-11e9-86ab-5d02109aeb01_story.html

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/26/lynchings-sadism-white-men-why-america-must-atone

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/n...powers-white-men-are-very-violent-and-problem

https://www.harpersbazaar.com/cultu...shootings-male-entitlement-toxic-masculinity/

https://www.thenation.com/article/we-have-a-problem-with-white-men-they-support-trump/

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2018/04/02/white-men-are-bad/LrBxRAPJ1bgiiTZOp6ri8I/story.html

"The Danger of Claiming 'Not All Men/White People/Privileged" https://everydayfeminism.com/2015/10/notallcishets-internal-biases/

And that's just from two pages of a DuckDuckGo search. Anti-white-male bias is not only prevalent and accepted, it's practically mandatory. For white men to a) not notice and b) not care seems a bit naive.