“THIS IS DO-OR-DIE”: JOE BIDEN’S “ELECTABILITY” ARGUMENT IS HOW DEMOCRATS LOSE ELECTIONS

Please nut jobs who seen shadows were always there. The left and right both distrust government equally- no realignment due to that fact. We have always been conflicted about our role in the world. From Washington on foreign entanglements to isolationism before each of the world wars. After WW2 the nation as a whole saw the need to stop communism and rebuild europe, but also led the decolonization of Africa and Asia to self determine.
Even Iran in the 50s with the shah was with the prospect to contain USSR expansion more than our oil industry like today. Now that the threat of communism has passed some Americans (not our MIC mulit national beholden government) want a return to our historical more isolationist policy.

 

I'll agree Trump came with baggage but his job performance thus far is the important part to anyone with an open mind and the media does everything it can to keep any I'll feelings people had against the man when he ran for office fueled with false allegations and constant character assassination. They do indeed gin up hate for Trump on a daily basis and purposely fan the fires of anyone who has any I'll feelings toward him as an individual.

 

The threat of communism is not in the past and it's spreading it's wings once again. The left in America is sadly embracing it's tenets and it's leaders as they attempt to make America socialist.

 

who is embracing communism? The right calls national health insurance care socialism. Socialism is state owned and state run, not state paid. The armed services are socialism. Police and fire departments are socialism. Road construction, Port authorities and Hydro power are a mix of socialism and capitalism. The government cutting a check to pay for someones healthcare or to buy a box of staples is not socialism. Never mind communism.

 

The left in this country embraces Castro, Cuba, Venezeula and Chavez. They glorify those leaders and those counties as something we should aspire to. The green new deal is not far from the communist manifesto.

 

Gore couldn't win his own state. The people who knew him best liked him least.

 

No doubt that Clinton lied and that this was evil ...
But why is Trump blockading the full release of the full report, if there is nothing inside, what he has to fear when he is so innocent, eh?

National Security reason? I get a laugh ... because will be a lie!

 

Good article. Biden is the safe choice, like Hillary. Which is the problem.

 

Grand jury testimony by law that congress passed can not be legally released. Democrats are demanding Barr breaks a law they themselves passed.

 

The Democrat Party has been rebuilt by Vietnam protesters. Socialism-Communism, whatever you want to call it is a patient ideology. They took over the education system and the entertainment business and control the MSM. Currently, they are insuring a socialist future by flooding America with undereducated refugees from South America. They will begin their American lives on socialist programs and we all know that such a life is self perpetuating. Democrat voters for life. The great experiment is almost over.

 

Ehm what?
One moment please ... what grand jury testimony please?
Barr had published a brief summary of the report, which is why Trump and his followers began to celebrate. The request to submit the complete and "blackened" report does not come to Barr and Trump refused the release, citing the so-called executive privilege. Under this privilege, the President has the right to deny certain information or documents to Congress or courts. How far this authority goes, however, is not exactly defined and was in the past again and again in various cases with various republican and democratic presidents, which used it, strongly controversial.

So, the question is actually what this report says that Trump is so afraid that it will be published!
The whole thing is slowly getting more of a touch of Watergate and Nixon ... wink at the famous tapes back then!

It can definitely not be anything that can be seriously and actually justified with the manslaughter argument "For the sake of national security" .... even if Trump loves to rape this term as the punitive tariffs on steel already happened!

Every time I get a fit of laughter about this American hysteria for socialism and communism, and how these terms are massively raped by the political right in the US to discredit the Democrats!
How stupid can and must an American actually bel that he / she actually believes these ridiculous right-wing slogans?

The biggest joke that shows this total hypocrisy of the righties on this issue is Trump's approach to China and the EU with punitive tariffs and the criticisms of US companies when they want to relocate jobs. Suddenly everything is completely OK and right, what Trump is doing ... but, that has a catch:

Even Obama had already taken such steps to protect the US jobs ... for example, "Buy American" or the order that in all public infrastructure measures only steel, concrete and other building materials from US production is allowed to use. This was even so severe that a US steel factory with 600 American jobs threatened to shut down because it belonged to a Swiss-Russian group and was therefore excluded. It even threatened a trade war with Canada ... and what was the response of the righties then: "These are socialist methods!"

Sorry ... where is the difference to Trump's steps that these are non-socialist methods?

 

"The attorney general said the Justice Department will color-code redacted portions of the report and provide explanatory notes that describe the basis for each redaction. He’s identified four types of information that could be redacted, including grand jury information, and material that could interfere with ongoing prosecutions or compromise sources and methods."

https://www.law.com/nationallawjour...fo-in-mueller-report/?slreturn=20190410100713

 

Tax cuts for business and protective tariffs to level the field. Working class Americans lose when globalism makes them compete with third world labor for a living. Obama was an unrepentant socialist which he proved in his lame duck years.

Trump was elected by people like myself who could see what we have become. Don't worry, the media campaign and the entertainment propaganda machine are working to contain any repairs Trump might effect and the glorious peoples party hasn't even slowed their march to power. Trump is a speed bump.

 

And so you are satisfied and everything is OK for you? OK ... then 2 facts:

#1
Mueller himself ... the one who wrote the report and knows best ... had criticized Barr directly for his summary because it does not reflect the content correctly.
Only ... Of course Mueller has to keep his mouth shut for legal reasons, as far as the content is concerned, and must not put it right, which is why he has to pay attention to what he says on the subject and how he formulates it!

# 2
The statement "material that could interfere with ongoing prosecution or compromise sources and methods" is just ridiculous! Which are meant by that please?
Supposedly Trump is completely relieved with this report ... as he and his fans proudly cheer!
The fact is that so far 6 charges have been made concerning "Russia Gate" ... and all against people from the immediate environment of Trump.
According to US law, the indictment must also include the evidence that speaks against the accused.
Conclusion: What should the report still contain, which is not mentioned anyway in the indictments against these 6 persons?
And new charges or even ongoing investigations against other people in the matter here, there is not!

And as far as source protection is concerned, that is, naming the name of a source, nobody will say anything if it's blackened ... even though, of course, they all want to know. However ... why the one against whom the investigation ran, can then see unblacked these sources and names? Strange..

 

Oh yeah, where is it spreading it's wings, isn't cuba the last bastion of communism? The communist dictators are still in power in a few countries but those countries have embraced free markets also.

 

So you are on record for demanding grand jury testimony be leaked and sources compromised. You don't always need names to identify sources when content is exposed for scrutiny.

 

It's spreading it's wings in America in the DNC. The green new deal is not that far removed from the communist manifesto

 

Nice that you have fallen in your bias then a charlatan. Again ... if Obama did, then it was socialist ... if Trump does the same, then it's "great." Ridiculous!
And should I still come with the question of what he has actually achieved? The fact is, most of what he sells as his success is the long-term result of Obama's actions.

And basically ... If the Republicans put the US President, then the state budget is ruined, debts made without end, it comes very often to shut down, it is put tons of tax money in the military, the rich are relieved even more, burdening the ordinary population even more ... and all with this fairy tale of economic improvement, because the rich will then create more jobs, which has never happened, if you look closely at the facts ... and at the end of the 8 years is there ruined America, where republican bubbles begin to burst.
The Democrats are then allowed to clear up the mess of the Vorgärnger 8 years each time, before they are replaced again by Republicans, who then take back the steps of the predecessors and cause even more mess!
Not to forget that these gigantic expenses and debts are always apologized for lame reasons by the Republicans!
Sure ... also the Democrats increased the debt, but they took measures against, for example cuts ... but as soon as they were not further in power, these cuts were ended and money wasted more as before!

Facts:

US government debt when Reagan took office in 1981: $ 1,300 billion!
During his tenure, the functioning and US-protective regulation of the stock market and the banks was virtually ended. Result: Savings and Loan Crisis and Black Monday 1987.

US Government Debt Released by George Bush Sr. 1989: 3,410 Billion USD!
Continuing the policy of Reagan ... but due to end of cold war several small economy crises, because end of cold war hurt US economy too.

US government debt when Clinton took office in 1993: $ 4,800 billion!
Clinton ... I did not like him too ... made budget cuts and reorganizations so the US economy would pick up again after the end of the Cold War. He has ... unfortunately I have to admit that ... actually moved a lot and changed things for the better. In total the increase of the debt was during his 8 years only $ 800 billion...

US government debt when Bush Jr. took office in 2001: $ 5.6 billion!
Sure, it was 9/11 and it was the war in Iraq! But the war in Afghansitan for 9/11 alone is no reason for the total failure of this government. And as for the incredible costs of the war in Iraq ... sorry, who takes that as a decision that forgets that the Buish administration started this illegal and criminal war itself and that they could not finish it because of total inability and incompetence until 2009!
The gigantic increase in debt over these 8 years has something to do with it, but it is not an excuse, which is acceptable! and also and for very sure not the economy crises and crash in 2008, where the Bush administration failed totally and where and the successor inherited gigantic burdens and a huge pile of debris from them!

US Government Debt on Obama's Takeover in 2009: $ 12,400 Billion!
As I said earlier, Obama inherited a pile of rubble from Bush Jr. and it took more massive state intervention to prevent a recession like the late 1920's. That cost the US taxpayer a hell of a lot of money ... just because the previous government did not fulfill its duties of care and scrutiny and because criminal money sharks on Wall Street played Russian Roulette with the US ... and at least with the world! Alone within the first 2 years, the debt grew to 15.300 billion USD due to this situation!

However ... this is not a fan event for Obama ... because he built a lot of crap and could have done a lot better ... must have done better as he did actually!

US Government Debt on Trump's Takeover in 2017: $ 19.800 Billion
Within 2 years, Trump has raised its national debt to $ 22,000 billion ... that's 107% of GDP = more debt than the total US GDP!
The US defense budget alone has been raised by $ 40 billion to $ 648 billion ... despite this situation! And the US alone spends as much on the military as the top 20 states do after them! The US must be massively threatened everywhere and only surrounded by enemies ... but OK ... is just like that!

But the other thing is the shrug and indifference of the Republicans and righties over the national debt .., and the tax money wastage in the US!
But then they are upest with a lie about their NATO allies, because they don't fulfill their 2% obligation, although this obligation must be fulfilled ... contractual confirmed by the USA ... by them, only from 2024 onwards! Nice ....

 

Simple answer: Yes!
Because this is only a bad excuse and nothing more ...

 

Fine, get congress to create new law saying grand jury testimony can be made public then Barr can release it. As for protection of sources I'm sure Democrats desperately want to know who may have information on them and the ongoing investigation into who started the fake Russian collusion conspiracy theory in order to bring down a president. Not gonna happen though so they will have to keep sweating and wringing their sweaty hands.

 

People give testimony to the grand jury with the assurance that it is secret. So you now what grand jury testimony open to the public? That is a terrible precedent. People will refuse to testify in grand jury proceedings.

 

I am not a socialist and I am certainly not a communist. I am a progressive democrat that believes in Medicare for all and that coal should not be used as a fuel source. And who you go to bed with and choose to marry is your own damm business. I guess I better get out my little red book and brush up some. How many years did you serve? What branch? How many months in a war zone? I proved my love of country.

 

as long as dems get out to vote, we win... I could care less what Trump supporters think of any of our candidates

staying home and not voting is a vote for Trump....

 

Trump said maybe he would marry his daughter while running for President.... he still won

Trump paid off Stormy while running for President, told her she reminded him of his daughter, trump supporters do not care

 

So you give Bush credit for everything since Obama blamed everything on him?