Are no democrats smart enough too...

Discussion in 'Political Opinions & Beliefs' started by Mike12, May 12, 2019.

  1. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    Me?
    I don't live in the land of the cheeseburger and home of the fries.
    However, when someone who doesn't know the difference between to and too casts doubt on the smartness of others it only seems polite to help them out.
     
  2. mitchscove

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    If you have to nitpick grammar on a political website, you obviously have nothing intelligent to add to the conversation.
     
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    If you call others dumb, you'd best learn the difference between to and too.
    As for this ''conversation'' it's little more than flamebait and not worthy of a serious response.
    Frankly, I'm surprised it got past the censors.
     
  4. Mike12

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    So when they support sanctuary cities, which harbor illegals, isn’t this supporting it?

    What about when both sanders and clinton vowed to not deport 11 millions illegals as a campaign promise leading up to 2016 election? Isn’t this supporting it?

    What about when pretty much all of them harass and villify ice agents for enforcing immigration laws? Some of the candidates want to abolish ice, as you know

    What about their stances on walls? Have you heard Beto talk about tearing walls recently?

    So tell me, what does all the above mean to you? The attacks on immigration officers for enforcing laws, the promise not to deport illegals, the promise to provide path to citizenship for illegals, the support for sanctuary cities? The promise to tear down walls? Tell me...
     
  5. Mike12

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    Bernie:
    “Somebody who is very fond of the president, agrees with him most of the time, I disagree with his recent deportation policies. And I would not support those. Bottom line is a path towards citizenship for 11 million undocumented people, if Congress doesn’t do the right thing, we use the executive orders of the president.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...romise-on-immigration/?utm_term=.6e2e8a5e6aed


    Sure.. they are all tough on illegals and don’t support illegal immigration, sure. Yup!

    The left today vows not to deport illegals and want to get them citizenship. Why not? That’s millions of votes!
     
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    One of my all time favorite Reagan dictums, "It is not so much that our friends on the left are evil as it is that they believe so many things that just aren't true." It's not that they are too damn stupid but that their blinders are incapable of admitting even a hint of info from outside there left wing sound bubble. Even the few people inside the bubble are automatically dismissed if they call in to question leftist cant.
     
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    Mueller did not say that Trump was innocent of instruction: it's absolute ignorance if anyone suggests that.alle

    Democrats do not support illegal immigration: it's absolute ignorance if anyone suggests that.

    MikeK has merely made silly assertions and denies other to prove him wrong.

    That's mikey's game.
    Yet, he wants to debate. I did not say you said whatever. The DOJ did not say that Trump was clear of obstruction of justice. Barr and Rosenstein did not conclude any such thing.

    The fact is that your interpretation is dead wrong. :)

    One of my all time sayings, "It is not so much that our friends on the right are evil as it is that they believe so many things that just aren't true."
     
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  8. JakeStarkey

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    There was no racial calm, and the rw extremists went crazy with Obama's elections and stirred it up.

    Trump is the most divisive president in our history.
     
  9. Mike12

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    You like embarrasing yourself do you?


    “The deputy AG and I concluded evidence wasn’t sufficient to charge president with obstruction of justice” AG Barr

    Hehehe
     
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    Nonsense there was not one time in his entire presidency when Obama had a chance to calm racial tensions that he did not throw gasoline on the fire. Many on the right and left hailed Obama as our first post racial president he proved to be anything but.
     
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    More than obama? Sure???? Don’t recall a period as divisive as when congress was split apart by obama.. it was the most divisive period in recent memory, especially after he jammed through ACA as he did... oh, and, yeah, even BLM started under obama.. riots, demonization of cops that led to cop ambushes.. yeah, under obama.
     
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    There is no such thing as "sanctuary cities". It's one more lie from the right wingnut media for their gullible audience that you believed. Local authorities have enough on their hands dealing with criminals to waste their time arresting illegal aliens who rarely break the law and, on the contrary, are usually very helpful informants.

    "Vow"? Nonsense! See? This is how gullible the right wing is. Sanders, HIllary and... every rational politician has said that it's impossible to deport 11 million illegals. Trump said that he could. The only different between the three is that Trump lied, and you believed him. But as far as the outcome... no difference. As a matter of fact, their proposals would probably have given better results than Trump's (we'll never know)

    Separating children from their parents goes beyond enforcing any laws. Some of which were applying to become legal immigrants, is inhumane and immoral. Following orders, when such orders are immoral, is no excuse.

    What about walls? There are walls where walls are needed. Democrats funded walls and fences in places where technical experts determined they would be useful. The supposed "wall" that would cover the whole boarder is a political ploy to fooll the gullible right. It will never be build. It can't be built. But even if it could, it would be a waste of money.

    It means that the gullibility on the right is alive and strong.

    You are confused by right wingnut media misinformation. Dreamers are not illegal immigrants. Their parents brought them into the country as children. They did not break any law. So they deserve a path to citizenship.

    And here is the thing: you have been believing the right wingnut media for too long. So your case is probably hopeless. But most Americans are not. Democrats simply need to give them the right information. Democrats do not support illegal immigration. Democrats do support a humane and realistic solution to the problem, though. Democrats do not support punishing innocent children. That is immoral.
     
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    Hehe, racial tensions were an all time high under obama.. BLM movement, riots all over the country.. police ambushes.. makes today seem harmonious.
     
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    [QUTE="Mike12, post: 1070558103, member: 59768"]You like embarrasing yourself do you?

    “The deputy AG and I concluded evidence wasn’t sufficient to charge president with obstruction of justice” AG Barr Hehehe[/QUOTE]
    (1) The DOJ does not permit the charging of a sitting President, so Barr's decision is immaterial. (2) It is on the shelf for the next administration. (3)The SOL begins running the day the President leaves office. (4) The next admin will indict him.
     
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    (1) The DOJ does not permit the charging of a sitting President, so Barr's decision is immaterial. (2) It is on the shelf for the next administration. (3)The SOL begins running the day the President leaves office. (4) The next admin will indict him.[/QUOTE]
    He will never be indicted for obstruction... there was no crime and mueller was allowed to finish.

    Stop dreaming.. now let’s see what the NY prosecutors come up with.. they are reviewing his finances and this silly campaign finance violation. This is your best bet... after he leaves office. Sad that you all have degraded yourselves to wishing trump gets charged with a crime after he leaves office, does this make you a decent human being? Probably not.
     
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    You understand that this completely refuted your claim right? Lol
     
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    Hahaha.. you make me laugh, it’s like comedy.

    What did i lie about? That DOJ concluded trump didn’t obstruct justice?

    Here...


    Heheheh

    Already shamed one of the posters here for telling me i made this up.. your turn. You guys like embarrassing yourselves.. it’s like a fetish of the left

    Hihi
     
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    It does? It is exactly my claim.. proven right.

    Hahahahhahaha

    Geez.. i’m spilling coffee on my shirt! You clowns are too hillarious..
     
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    It’s comedy zone here.. leftists embarrassing themselves.. and they keep coming for more!
     
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    If the Dems do as you say, you'll vote Dem?
     
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    if you are able to pull my posts going back years on the forum, you will realize something shocking - i have been a democrat most of my life. The democratic party has gone too far left but it's not only this, it's degraded itself to the party of the mob and lawlessness.

    One thing is to go far left by setting forth radical ideas like green deal, proposing medicare for all (not that it's radical but far left, yes) and free everything but do it with civility and integrity. It's another thing to act like the mob and become a shameful group of people who just care about themselves and want to, basically, change constitution and re-write history. What are democrats about lately?

    Russia collusion? crazy idea that Trump was a Russian agent? based on a democratic funded and discredited dossier? now going after Trump's financial records, tax records.. for no good reason? talking about impeachment for no crimes (the framers were always afraid of impeachment powers being abused.)

    The vicious attacks on conservative speech? on college campus and social media? black conservatives vilified as uncle Tom's and in the case of Kanye, Don Lemon and his crew calling him a negro and laughing about it. How about the attacks on anyone that doesn't agree with the left? if you don't agree with abortion, you are 'evil'; if you are religious, you are a bad person. The disregard for presumption of innocence? remember Kavanaugh? The attacks on ICE agents for enforcing laws? Attacks on cops, who go out there and have to face dangers and vicious criminals all over Country? The support for sanctuary cities, which oppose federal immigration laws and protect illegals from deportation? The promise to not deport illegals?

    The attacks on Israel sum up what the democrats have become, in so many ways. The openly anti-semite rhetoric? Israel is the only country on middle east which believes in democratic ideals, look around. The Palestinians pay people to kill jews (take care of their families), Saudi Arabia is ruled by Kings with a leader that orders execution and dismemberment of a prominent journalist. Pakistan? sudan? afghanistan? filled with extremists and terrorists.. Iran? big supporter of terrorist groups. Many of the Arab countries under sharia law, you will see women being stoned for infidelity, people killed for small crimes... human rights abuses all over, women can't even walk around without being fully covered, or else. And where is the left in their condemnation of all of this? Heard rep. Omar condemn any of it? but, Yes, Israel is the evil country..

    democrats don't debate policy anymore, do they? 5 mins into any debate, they reach for identity politics tool in their toolkit

    give me a democrat that talks policy, sets forth a positive message, doesn't just say what pollsters tell him/her what he/she should say, sure, i can go democrat again... would have to be a moderate. Give me Bill Clinton or JFK... today's democrats? not worthy of shining Trump's shoes!
     
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    (1) The DOJ does not permit the charging of a sitting President, so Barr's decision is immaterial. (2) It is on the shelf for the next administration. (3)The SOL begins running the day the President leaves office. (4) The next admin will indict him.[/QUOTE]
    He will never be indicted for obstruction... there was no crime and mueller was allowed to finish.
    Learn how to use the posting guides.

    MikeK, remember that I know you and am not particularly concerned about your beliefs and or findings.

    The states can indict the President now. The next admin can handle the eleven other charges, including 14 counts of obstruction.

    No true American ever worries about what rw extremists think decency is.
     
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    Here comes, "I have been a Democrat most of my life." No, you have not.
     
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    Nancy Pelosi pretty much told leftist politicians the same thing a couple of weeks ago. She also strongly advised them to openly LIE about who and what they really were and what their long term plans were for this nation. I think the problem is that most of these leftist politicians won in 'safe' districts in which -- as Nancy herself said -- a glass of water could win; and so it was an advantage to out radical the other radical leftist politician who was realistically your only political competition. So they got out of the habit of lying about their real goals and nature.

    The irony of that from Nancy is that she too comes from a district in which -- as long as you ARE a radical leftist -- a glass of water could win. I mean San Francisco? Sheesh!
     
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    So you are saying you would prefer a Democrat (if they were or weren't what you outline here) over Trump.
     
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