Imagining a world without Trumpery.

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  1. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    A President who tries to act with honesty and integrity. A man/woman who governs with the guiding principle he/she is the prez for all Americans. One who seeks consensus and cooperation on the issues that divide us.
    A prez who understands the value coalitions like the TPP in bringing economic adversaries in line rather than using punitive tariffs that hurt the economies of all involved.
    A prez who advocates for comprehensive immigration reform that treats immigrants humanely, enhances border security, provides for technology making it harder for illegal aliens to be employed, and allows for a rigorous path to citizenship for those who qualify.
    https://www.americanimmigrationcoun...44-understanding-2013-senate-immigration-bill
    A world where practical measures are taken to reduce gun violence like enhanced background checks, a ban on the sale of military style automatic weapons, mandatory trigger locks, and a ban on private sales of guns without regulation.
    A prez who respects the bedrock founding principle of three co-equal branches of government. One who does not use independent agencies like the DOJ as a political tool to investigate his enemies and protect him/herself.
    A world where economic and military alliances are appreciated and nurtured for the protection they afford us and the common good of our allies.
    A prez who regards the press as the vital institution it is in a representative democracy. One who makes every attempt to inform the public, not deceive it.
    A world where policy proclamations are made after exhaustive consultation with qualified staff, not unilaterally by way of social media. Where official spokespeople for our government do not routinely misrepresent the truth to the point when their lack of credibility causes them to stop daily press briefings.
    A President who accepts the overwhelming scientific evidence human activity is causing climate change and acts with the urgency to slow it that the peril the planet is in demands.
    A prez who acknowledges massively debt inducing stimulative measures to the economy are to be taken when they are truly needed, not when his/her poll numbers need it.
    A world where appointments within the admin are made based on qualifications, not on loyalty to the prez.
    A man/woman who embraces the leaders of the world's democracies, not authoritarian despots who use the approval of the POTUS to gain legitimacy.
    A world in which all the citizens of this country take seriously the need to be well informed with fact based information in order to fulfill their essential role in this democracy.
     
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  2. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What I've just described is the kind of presidential admin that a Republican candidate from 30 years ago, or a contemporary Dem, would usher in.
     
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    That’s nice.

    Put a smilie face on it, and stick it up on the fridge.
     
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    Ah! looks like it was another sleepless night for some.
     
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    Hmmf ... Here's how I describe your daily dose of I need a place to vent my frustration for being humiliated by crooked Hillary's corrosive campaign.
     
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    a true leader doesn't seek consensus.
     
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    Yes

    A weak leader would be obama wetting a finger to see which way the wind is blowing and then following along
     
  8. Lee Atwater

    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Why not?
     
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    Or Bill Clinton conducting a poll to decide whether he should tell the truth or not.
     
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    Because the essence of leadership is a willingness to take responsibility for something. By you and you alone. Seeking a "consensus" inevitably means spreading responsibility around which means you are deliberately avoiding clear responsibility if possible.

    Leadership also means choosing a clear direction for those you are leading. One person can and does do that. A committee by its nature does not.
     
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    Because it's "Trumpery" that's responsible for a misinformed public, and not a mainstream media that's become the propaganda wing of the Democrat party, and enthusiastically pushes the progressive agenda, facts be damned.

    If only Trumpery were eliminated, the truth would be valued.

    :rolleyes:
     
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    You will have to fumigate Washington of all the cockroaches, paint the walls, and drain the cesspool before you can hope to attract any high class tenants like those you describe. The democrats, the RINOs, and the MSM are engaging in a campaign to ensure that no one outside the establishment will ever again seek that office. If they are successful, the cesspool drain will be cemented shut forever, and your dream will never have any chance of coming true.
     
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    We have different definitions of what seeking consensus by a prez is. For me, it's expressing a willingness by words and actions to take the views of the opposing party...........WHO REPRESENT THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS............in to consideration when formulating policy. This, rather than only setting policies to appease his base of supporters.
     
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    A true leader doesn't lead by consensus. Nor does he lead by simply deferring to the majority. Sometimes leadership requires, no it demands not only NOT accepting the opinions and beliefs of the majority but openly defying them and working against them.

    FDR worked directly against the beliefs of the majority of Americans citizens in the run up to World War Two because he felt U.S. involvement in the war was both inevitable and necessary.
     
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    You're referring to a bully not a leader.
     
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    In this case the MAJORITY didn't put him in office counties and republicans did. The majority can go pound sand, they're just a bunch of unrealistic leftist that work harder to disrupt a nation then contribute anything positive to improve it..
     
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    Ahhh, so anyone who did not vote for Trump is anti-American in your book.
     
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    And yet you voted for crooked Hillary, who called Republicans deplorable. What a joke.
     
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    Every leader has an element of being a "bully" in him. Even people like Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and Gandhi were willing and able to push people to promote what they saw as the moral good.
     
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    No, in the same respect that not everyone that criticized Mr.Obatard was a racist, but the left saddled us all with it :) Again hypocrisy rules on the left ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    I didn't say deferring to the majority. I said taking their views in to consideration to arrive at a policy that reflects a consensus view. It's called governing according to democratic principles.
     
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    Imagining a world without left-wingers.
     
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    Well there is the century old reference
    ¯\_(º¸º)_/¯
     
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    Of course that would leave you with no internet, no computers, few doctors and nurses, few teachers ... just left with a bunch of angry old farts telling people to get off their lawns ...
     
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    And what considerations are our lil leftist concerned with? Impeachment, incarceration, censoring and all the other chicken **** nonsense attempt to use to unseat a elected President..

    Conservative don't subscribe to sedition, that's the new game the leftist play now when they loose!!
     
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