EU PANIC: Brussels rocked by 'DESPAIR' over future role of Farage and Boris Johnson

Discussion in 'Western Europe' started by The Rhetoric of Life, May 7, 2019.

  1. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    But they do the same thing don't they, funny how you legitimise one form of protectionism but not the other.
    Hypocrisy, a trait of the EU.
     
  2. The Scotsman

    The Scotsman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2017
    Messages:
    7,079
    Likes Received:
    6,364
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    ah yes hypocricy...one only has to look at Jean-Claude Junker and the "sweetheart" tax deals to many big businesses and US tech giants that he presided over as Prime Minister of Luxembourg and when he assumed the Presidency of the EU and as permanent president of the Eurogroup of finance ministers. When faced with these revelations (lux Leaks) he astonishingly denied any knowledge of it although public records proved him being instrumental in most of them. To his credit though Junker actually got away with it and won a vote of confidence in November 2014 and by agreement Parliament agreed not to raise the issue again....wink wink.....certain delegates having illicit bank accounts in Luxembourg.
    And now we have the very same people complaining about the very same companies that were allowed to set up in the EU and enjoy such tax breaks being vilified by the EU for setting up in the EU and taking advantage of tax breaks....management of narrative is the superpower of M. Jean-Claude Junker...the consummate Brussels apparachik orders the competition commission to undertake a member wide investigation into the tax "scandal" knowing that this will take years and deflect attention away from Luxembourg. Clever guy.
     
    Last edited: May 16, 2019
    cerberus likes this.
  3. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Theresa May to step down in June, Boris Johnson has announced his candidacy for the top job.
    That's the news here this morning in the UK.


    Theresa May said no deal was better than a bad deal, but wasn't prepared to actually accept no deal, so she's been ousted. Boris Johnson, more laid back about the concept of no deal, can he deliver a no deal Brexit?

    Brexit Party also to frighten critics of Boris Johnson within the Conservative Party to back Boris Johnson.

    Good news, Labour and Tory cross party talks break down in the night.
     
  4. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Only an idiot would accept a UK deal with the EU considering it means paying a high divorce bill and locking the UK into the EU in all but name and giving up a part of the UK on the island of Ireland - and that's why Theresa May and the EU's deal didn't make it through British Parliament.
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2019
  5. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,530
    Likes Received:
    5,363
    Trophy Points:
    113
    As if any of the functionaries in the Euro-parliament would dare call him out - although Nigel probably did? lol Still, when they no longer have our £350.000 a month to squander, they'll have to start increasing the fines they keep levelling at banks, and global companies like Amazon. Where there's a will, there's usually a way? :roflol:

    I wonder if the EU's audit has been signed off recently? Hmm, hold that thought?
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2019
  6. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You mean £350, 000, 000.00
    That's what £350 million looks like in digits @cerberus; what you're saying is £350 thousand.
    Still, I hear what you're saying, the EU is a waste of money.
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2019
    cerberus likes this.
  7. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,530
    Likes Received:
    5,363
    Trophy Points:
    113
    That's what she used to say until someone whispered into her ear, 'Get a grip woman - a no-deal means we won't be able to decamp to Brussels when we're booted out of Westminster, stupido.' And she's been trying to get one ever since! :mrgreen:
     
  8. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Ehm ... a) = inside the EU space ... b) = outside the EU space?
    a) = people ... b) = goods?

    Or is China suddenly member of the EU? DidnÄt I get something that China joined the EU as new member state?
     
  9. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    :roflol::roflol::roflol:

    According to Farage himself, it was 350 million a week ... so not monthly ... going to Brussels and better getting into the NHS as the famous slogan on the famous red Brexit bus told.

    FACT IS ... and that Farage himself had long admitted ... that would be repaid by these 350 million immediately 66% = 230 million from Brussels to London. Why? Because Margret Thather enforced this in the EU at the beginning of the 1980's ... the so-called "British discount"!
    And then there is the question, how many of these 230 million then go to the NHS. The answer to this is all Brexeteer's silence, because the answer here is, "next to nothing!"

    So ... what happens with these weekly 230 million GBP of dicount in the UK please! Before you blame the EU, look in the mirror of onw failure! To blame the EU for wasting, but when the own country wastes minimum the same with own tax money coming back from the EU, is lame ... very lame!

    And btw ... the "Bitish Dicount" will end soon and due to the UK incompetence to say the EU how they want to leave the EU, they will pay the full 350 million really.
    So ... Say thank you to your stupid British Politicians for this, because their guilt only!
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2019
  10. The Scotsman

    The Scotsman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2017
    Messages:
    7,079
    Likes Received:
    6,364
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    ...or is it both? I mean Techno-geopolitics places new leverages in both private and corporate hands and will require states to reshape laws and regulations in order to protect the foundation of European centralism for one thing if not just basic human rights....as the FT said a while ago...
    ...power is being redistributed internationally and borders are losing their values as barriers. That such global influences seem largely benign does not eliminate threats to independence, tradition and freedom itself. The new China could become the world model of state-capitalist authoritarianism to which Brussels to date has lacked both the competence and the authority for the task facing it - at the moment policymaking is floundering especially in the critical field of IT. The EU will have to content with a new type of world order and that cannot be merely an announcement of administrative fiat. New "ecosystems" within commerce, technology, industry have to evolve - China does not have to be in or out of the EU it just....well....IS
     
  11. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    All because someone is in the EU does not make it okay to dump onto the EU.
    Quit pretending EU countries should have a right to dump but the Chinese don't.
    It's insulting to our intelligence to assume EU dumping is okay but Chinese dumping isn't okay just because one of them gets high of the smell of their own farts inside the EU and the others don't.
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2019
  12. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
  13. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,530
    Likes Received:
    5,363
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Thanks for that RoL - £350,000,000 a week. Would be be possible to work out exactly how much we've paid in to the EU since we first joined? Probably not - it must amount to trillions. Better to not know I guess.
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2019
    The Rhetoric of Life likes this.
  14. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There would be no need for a Thatcher won rebate for a country who leaves without a deal paying the EU nothing.

    We should encourage the EU to break apart, or not, once the UK leaves, really couldn't care less anymore and we can finally stop talking about the EU.
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2019
  15. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,530
    Likes Received:
    5,363
    Trophy Points:
    113
    The EU project is now on borrowed time. I hope the cataclysm when it comes isn't too bad for the populaces.
     
  16. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Sure ... BUT THEN SAY FINALLY HOW YOU WANT TO LEAVE ... PLEASE! Hell ... bla bla bla without any end how evil the EU is and the EU is for all and everything guilty, but the only reason why UK is still in EU is, that they are to incompetent to say the EU how they want leave!

    And of course ... EU shll die is one of your wet dreams ... but there you can wait until hell freeze in!

    YOU WANT TO LEAVE ... THEN SAY HOW AND GO AND DON'T BLABBER BULLCRAP!!!!
     
  17. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    I just want the UK out of the EU and closer to USA over the EU anyday.

    To care about the EU once the UK has left is to care about going to Amsterdam or Paris or Rome for the weekend or Oktoberfest, and nothing more.

    Social and economic policies in the EU, shouldn't bother me once the UK is out.
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2019
  18. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    No ... not someone decided ... the EU Council decision = decision of all EU members together!

    You make here comparison which is simply rubbish! Imports from China are totally other issue as free movement!
     
  19. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    There was a time when I cared about The City of London retaining the right to trade in Euros inside the EU or outside the EU, but, now I consider Euros like Monopoly money or Disneyland bucks; so I don't even care if the EU blocks the Euro from The City since, well, it's the Euro and not the Dollar.

    The truth of the matter is; The EU needs to be put in their place.
    So who cares what they do when what they do means nothing to no one outside of the EU.
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2019
  20. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    There was a time, where I thought hte same about the GBP ... and now think the same about as you for Euro.

    UK decided not to change to Euro as currency ... so why the f*** shall they be allowed? They want GBO, then trade GBP!
     
  21. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    You do realise The City of London trades in Dollars, Yen and Euros as well as GBP.
    If the EU wanted to break ranks and stop the economic capital of the world trading in Euros, well, it's past the point of concern for me.

    Only a European EU fool demands that you must use the currency to trade in the currency.
     
    Last edited: May 17, 2019
  22. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2015
    Messages:
    25,530
    Likes Received:
    5,363
    Trophy Points:
    113
    It would still be interesting to know how much we've handed over for the last 40 years though.
     
  23. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Oh ... really. Investigate better about the topic ... hint: look on the USD please!
     
  24. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 15, 2015
    Messages:
    12,410
    Likes Received:
    2,689
    Trophy Points:
    113
    And how much you received back not ... I guess?

    Understandable ... because the balance will be evil in result for the Brexit Clowns!
     
  25. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Banned

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2017
    Messages:
    11,186
    Likes Received:
    3,372
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Gender:
    Male
    Last edited: May 17, 2019

Share This Page