Alabama’s Draconian Abortion Ban Has Women On Twitter Ready To Fight

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  1. Giftedone

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    They only care about the stuff in the book they agree with. And therein lies the hypocrisy. The Bible does not claim that abortion is against Levitical Law and Jesus does not mention it either.

    When it comes to gays - they will claim "levitical Law" as religious belief such as the Pizza guy. A dude who makes his living selling pepperoni (pork) and who works on Sunday and happily serves adulterers.
     
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    Standing - the term for the ability of a party to demonstrate sufficient connection to and harm from the law or action.

    There is simply no way to claim that men have the same STANDING in abortion cases or the abortion debate that women do. It is physically impossible.
     
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    In the debate against Ryan during the last Obama election Biden stated the argument correctly.

    He stated "I am a Catholic and abortion is wrong on the basis of my religious belief however, I do not believe in forcing my religious beliefs on others".

    This is the whole point of "secularism" - separation of church and state. The whole point of "consent of the Governed" (as per the Declaration of Independence - which give principle on which law and the constitution are to be interpreted) is that authority of Gov't comes from "we the people" as apposed to "divine right/God" as was the case in the past.
     
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    Many democrats used to be against abortion until abortion extremists took over the party.
     
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    :) Translated , "Allah be praised"...
     
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    What is an abortion extremist?
     
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    Try explaining that life actually begins with the formation of a sperm cell or the egg. Even before fertilization and they come back with BS, hogwash, no way.
    They only know the 1 definition that fits their narrative that thinks this gives them the right to tell everyone else how they must believe. Talk about closed minded.
     
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    Many D's back 200 yrs ago, used to be pro slavery as well.
    Now only righties are against pro choice and are for pro discrimination.
     
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    Anyone who supports abortion on demand or abortion after 20 weeks. Most civilized countries limit abortion to 12-15 weeks. I agree with them.
     
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    The instant that a perdon becomes s person is debatable

    But the georgia law protecting innocent humans with a heartbeat is very reasonable
     
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    Most democrats 50 years ago supported working people and policies that benefited them. Their rightward turn on economic issues and their contempt for working people coincided with their obsession with abortion and identity politics.
     
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    No it's not.
    Even the definition of death or end of life doesn't include heartbeat.
     
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    It coincided with Clinton joining the R party on NAFTA.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    What is an abortion extremist?



    Elective abortion is hardly extreme. ….Abortions are illegal after 23-24 weeks unless they are for the life/health of woman and/or fetus.

    "Most civilized"" countries" ??? Like Canada????


    I doubt civilized countries have such uncivilized limits. But they're not bad since most abortions take place between 12 and 18 weeks.
     
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    No, it is NOT.... a person becomes a legal person at birth.
     
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    We are obviously talking about the daughters of conservative women since many lib daughters are in trash dumpsters and will never have sex with a man
     
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    i hope more states pass this and the SCOTUS upholds it.

    We will see the Republicans crash even harder in 2020 as more and more people vote Democrat to make sure Republicans will not be there after then to block the Constitutional Amendment guaranteeing women's right to choose that will be demanded. Abortion is the classic type of wag the dog issue where a small but vociferous minority, in this case religious fanatics, seeks to impose their will on the suffering majority willy nilly by legislative chicanery and court machinations. The majority here is large enough so they will not suffer for very long. The Republican Party is going to suffer badly for this overreach just as they are going to hurt for foisting the worst President ever on ust through electoral cheating. I predict they will never recover and am loving every minute of watching their just desserts fall on them like a ton of bricks.
     
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    Do you think women should be free to kill their unborn child any time they choose?
     
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    The vast majority of the we live under required only a simple (50+1) to pass
     
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    Thanks for the clarification. Still, so what? By this argument can't we justify murder of any child. Some things are wrong on their face.
     
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    As I explained to the spotted cow we do not have to argue about the exact instant a peron becomes a person

    The alabama law may be struck down

    but who can deny that an unborn child with its own dna and a heart eat is a human being?

    And thats what the Georgia law says
     
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    While some may argue based on religious beliefs it is most certainly not necessary.
    Here's the bottom line: you simply cannot be for elective abortion after the fetus is alive and not be in favor infanticide. THAT position is not logically consistent. The epoch of birth is an arbitrary and self serving point in time.
     
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    Now you are quibbling over the law rather than science

    And the law can be changed
     
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    Moronic reply on your part. Once the baby is out of her body, the woman loses that special standing, so your argument is imbecilic.
     
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    When doe the fetus become a bone fide human life, scientifically speaking?
     

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