Trump claims that he's "too intelligent" to believe in climate change.

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  1. pol meister

    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    The latest California water drought is officially over.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/c...fficially-over-after-more-seven-years-n983461

    CA also had a drought when I Iived there 30 years ago. California has always had droughts of varying durations. Currently, this is the coldest and wettest spring I've ever seen in the Sierra Nevada mountains. Weather happens, and the "climate-change" agenda of the left is a complete idiocy, fully deserving of all the scorn and contempt heaped upon it.
     
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  2. Nemesis

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    So, you're claiming that there's no such thing as climate change, or that nothing should be done about it?

    Do you agree with Bonespurs that it's a "Chinese hoax"?
     
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    pol meister Well-Known Member

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    The climate changes every day. Get used to it, and stop trying to turn it into some deranged left-wing political agenda.
     
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    Nemesis Well-Known Member

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    Wrong again. This is science, not a "political agenda".

    The weather changes ever day, not the climate.

    https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/noaa-n/climate/climate_weather.html

    The difference between weather and climate is a measure of time. Weather is what conditions of the atmosphere are over a short period of time, and climate is how the atmosphere "behaves" over relatively long periods of time.

    When we talk about climate change, we talk about changes in long-term averages of daily weather. Today, children always hear stories from their parents and grandparents about how snow was always piled up to their waists as they trudged off to school. Children today in most areas of the country haven't experienced those kinds of dreadful snow-packed winters, except for the Northeastern U.S. in January 2005. The change in recent winter snows indicate that the climate has changed since their parents were young.

    If summers seem hotter lately, then the recent climate may have changed. In various parts of the world, some people have even noticed that springtime comes earlier now than it did 30 years ago. An earlier springtime is indicative of a possible change in the climate.

    In addition to long-term climate change, there are shorter term climate variations. This so-called climate variability can be represented by periodic or intermittent changes related to El Niño, La Niña, volcanic eruptions, or other changes in the Earth system.

    What Weather Means
    Weather is basically the way the atmosphere is behaving, mainly with respect to its effects upon life and human activities. The difference between weather and climate is that weather consists of the short-term (minutes to months) changes in the atmosphere. Most people think of weather in terms of temperature, humidity, precipitation, cloudiness, brightness, visibility, wind, and atmospheric pressure, as in high and low pressure.

    In most places, weather can change from minute-to-minute, hour-to-hour, day-to-day, and season-to-season. Climate, however, is the average of weather over time and space. An easy way to remember the difference is that climate is what you expect, like a very hot summer, and weather is what you get, like a hot day with pop-up thunderstorms.

    Things That Make Up Our Weather
    There are really a lot of components to weather. Weather includes sunshine, rain, cloud cover, winds, hail, snow, sleet, freezing rain, flooding, blizzards, ice storms, thunderstorms, steady rains from a cold front or warm front, excessive heat, heat waves and more.

    In order to help people be prepared to face all of these, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's (NOAA) National Weather Service (NWS), the lead forecasting outlet for the nation's weather, has over 25 different types of warnings, statements or watches that they issue. Some of the reports NWS issues are: Flash Flood Watches and Warnings, Severe Thunderstorm Watches and Warnings, Blizzard Warnings, Snow Advisories, Winter Storm Watches and Warnings, Dense Fog Advisory, Fire Weather Watch, Tornado Watches and Warnings, Hurricane Watches and Warnings. They also provide Special Weather Statements and Short and Long Term Forecasts.

    NWS also issues a lot of notices concerning marine weather for boaters and others who dwell or are staying near shorelines. They include: Coastal Flood Watches and Warnings, Flood Watches and Warnings, High Wind Warnings, Wind Advisories, Gale Warnings, High Surf Advisories, Heavy Freezing Spray Warnings, Small Craft Advisories, Marine Weather Statements, Freezing Fog Advisories, Coastal Flood Watches, Flood Statements, Coastal Flood Statement.

    Who is the National Weather Service?
    According to their mission statement, "The National Weather Service provides weather, hydrologic, and climate forecasts and warnings for the United States, its territories, adjacent waters and ocean areas, for the protection of life and property and the enhancement of the national economy. NWS data and products form a national information database and infrastructure which can be used by other governmental agencies, the private sector, the public, and the global community."

    To do their job, the NWS uses radar on the ground and images from orbiting satellites with a continual eye on Earth. They use reports from a large national network of weather reporting stations, and they launch balloons in the air to measure air temperature, air pressure, wind, and humidity. They put all this data into various computer models to give them weather forecasts. NWS also broadcasts all of their weather reports on special NOAA weather radio, and posts them immediately on their Interactive Weather Information Network website at: http://iwin.nws.noaa.gov/iwin/graphicsversion/bigmain.html.


    What Climate Means
    In short, climate is the description of the long-term pattern of weather in a particular area.

    Some scientists define climate as the average weather for a particular region and time period, usually taken over 30-years. It's really an average pattern of weather for a particular region.

    When scientists talk about climate, they're looking at averages of precipitation, temperature, humidity, sunshine, wind velocity, phenomena such as fog, frost, and hail storms, and other measures of the weather that occur over a long period in a particular place.

    For example, after looking at rain gauge data, lake and reservoir levels, and satellite data, scientists can tell if during a summer, an area was drier than average. If it continues to be drier than normal over the course of many summers, than it would likely indicate a change in the climate.

    Why Study Climate?
    The reason studying climate and a changing climate is important, is that will affect people around the world. Rising global temperatures are expected to raise sea levels, and change precipitation and other local climate conditions. Changing regional climate could alter forests, crop yields, and water supplies. It could also affect human health, animals, and many types of ecosystems. Deserts may expand into existing rangelands, and features of some of our National Parks and National Forests may be permanently altered.

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    An example of a Monthly Mean Outgoing Longwave Radiation (OLR) product produced from NOAA polar-orbiter satellite data, which is frequently used to study global climate change.
    Credits: NOAA

    The National Academy of Sciences, a lead scientific body in the U.S., determined that the Earth's surface temperature has risen by about 1 degree Fahrenheit in the past century, with accelerated warming during the past two decades. There is new and stronger evidence that most of the warming over the last 50 years is attributable to human activities. Yet, there is still some debate about the role of natural cycles and processes.

    Human activities have altered the chemical composition of the atmosphere through the buildup of greenhouse gases – primarily carbon dioxide, methane, and nitrous oxide. The heat-trapping property of these gases is undisputed although uncertanties exist about exactly how Earth's climate responds to them. According to the U.S. Climate Change Science Program (http://www.climatescience.gov), factors such as aerosols, land use change and others may play important roles in climate change, but their influence is highly uncertain at the present time.

    Who Studies Climate Change?
    Modern climate prediction started back in the late 1700s with Thomas Jefferson and continues to be studied around the world today.

    At the national level, the U.S. Global Change Research Program coordinates the world's most extensive research effort on climate change. In addition, NASA, NOAA, the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) and other federal agencies are actively engaging the private sector, states, and localities in partnerships based on a win-win philosophy and aimed at addressing the challenge of global warming while, at the same time, strengthening the economy. Many university and private scientists also study climate change.
     
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    FYI, we have polluted the land and water, and smog in large industrial cities is real. Only the naive can think we don't have an impact!!!!
     
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    republicans claim the 'end times' is coming

    you can always find outliers in both parties...
     
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    So you are not focusing on Global Warming because Democrats are determined to change the particular region with millions of illegally imported rain forest killers, chopping down our forests for their free housing...

    We probably need to bring back the crying Indian, now that Dems control the house like they did then, when it was really fracked up.
     
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    Because climate always changes?
     
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    I hardly think it's appropriate for someone espousing the religious dogma (Climate Change) of the Church of Liberalism to spread bigotry against believers in God.
     
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    Let's look at one prominent example in Washington DC - the Potomac River.

    Forty years ago the Potomac was so polluted it was illegal to swim and fish in the river. Today, not only can you swim in the Potomac, commercial fisherman are once again plying its waters.

    Similarly, it's been a while since the Cuyahoga River caught fire. :eek:

    While there's more work to be done, we've made amazing progress cleaning up our environment since the 1960s and 70s.

    Despite the effluence streaming from the beaks of Climate Chicken Littles like AOC, I don't think the human race is in danger of going extinct any time soon...
     
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    Look at the forecast for Atlanta this week. It will be 90+ every day for a week starting tomorrow...and Summer is still a month away.
     
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    Err, huh?

    So, since legal requirements have helped to make the Potomac cleaner, that means there's no climate change?

    That's your response?

    Jesus.
     
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    Please list any of GW predictions that have come to pass. Any.
     
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    I didn't make the predictions.... don't blame me
     
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    You have pointed to a weakness of blaming man for climate. As you can tell, Atlanta has fewer people than we have in the SF bay area yet we are cold and it is raining. When it rains here, we have a lot more snow and ice in our mountains. It has been many years since we came close to having this much cold and wet Springs or late winters.
     
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    I don't blame you for the "world will end in 12 years" prediction or that deceptive "climate scientists all agree" bullcrap either.
     
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    Burrrrr. We are going to have a high of 64° today. Feels like February, not May.
     
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    and don't blame me for the failed predictions of Jesus returning either
     
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    yep, the weather has changed sense I was a child for sure
     
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    Can I blame you for derailing the thread with off topic bigotry?
     
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    Death Valley in CA is still remarkably cool even with the doom told to us by Al Gore.

    Who is making the case for global doom caused by temperature? Not the scientists, we are told this by the political class.
     
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    you can get back on the topic and stop attacking posters
     
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    Yeah, and if the Climate change brings an overall higher aggregate temperature globally we will still have weather.
     
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    yep, may be different, but will still have it
     

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