Evidence Shows Sexual Orientation Can Change

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  1. HTownMarine

    HTownMarine Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The girls softball team in high school all turned lesbians for a year or two...

    Then I took the virginity of one of them.
     
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    That's still much higher than the general population. Twice as high. It obviously suggests there is a correlation.
     
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    The FRC spent years funding terrorists groups in Uganda and other places which murder gays on a daily basis, and has spent millions of dollars lobbying for laws making homosexuality illegal in various countries. They even tried to get the Ugandan government to make it a capital offense more than once.
     
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  4. Robert

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    it would be wonderful for MOM to have made her children proud. I appraised the home of a sad husband whose wife pulled this trick. It broke up the whole family so she could be with someone she wants to be with. Her family were tossed out the window. (female at UCLA)
     
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    People of all backgrounds do that all the time.

    Trump dumped 2 wives, cheated on all his wives, including the "first lady", who did some lesbian porn shots, and made them sign non-disclosures, plus he boned porn stars.

    Straight Republicans everywhere cheat on their wives, divorce them, break up their families, treat their wives like crap, beat them, kill them, make them have abortions, etc etc etc.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I can't say for sure. The lesbians came to my brothers tiny apartment in Manhattan and were chatting with my bro, themselves and maybe more. I paid attention to what I would call the misery index but did not want to pry into their lives to learn more about the parents. I did not want them to think I was rude to them or trying to hassle them.
     
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    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It seems as if you approve all of that except for Trump.
     
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    I think Repubs are huge hypocrites in that regard.

    I don't approve of any of it, especially someone beating or killing their wife, obviously.

    I'm just saying divorce, etc, is common, and usually no one's business.
     
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  9. Robert

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    As the appraiser, this fathers story was heart breaking. While it was not normally my business, most of my appraisals were ordered by mortgage brokers. This came to me from my phone directory ad. When he told me why he needed the appraisal, the story surfaced. I had to fill out the space called purpose of appraisal.

    What causes you to claim republicans are hypocrites? I had not passed judgement on the man or the wife. I felt sorry she broke her vows of her wedding to live a life of mouth between a woman's legs. Her kids were not stupid,
     
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    Because they do pass judgement all the time, pretending they are the Family Values party...

    which is a crock.

    I don't see how any of it is your business...

    there's nothing wrong with "a life of mouth between a woman's legs"....for gawd's sake, that sure sounds like passing judgement to me.

    How do you know whether her kids or anyone else's are proud or not (also passing judgement), and would it be any better if she left for a life with her mouth between a man's legs?

    Crikey.
     
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    You speak as if you fully endorse her busting up her family That is judgemental. And you are angry about family values. Why don't you support them?

    We are not pretending. You make an argument to let the family bust up and what she did to her family is not my business.

    I believe I said it is not my business. I do not think I would have found out except for the space on the appraisal form stating what the purpose of the appraisal is. He began to give me details.

    I said what I said not to pass judgment, but to express a major change in her life plus her Children's lives. I saw the pain she caused. It was an awful thing for he and his kids to endure.
     
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    Wtf?

    I didn't endorse it at all.

    I said it's common, and people who pretend to support family values bust up their families all the time, and do much worse...

    That's a shame for them...

    but it happens all the time, and the point is that the lesbian/gay factor has nothing to do with it.

    There are plenty of miserable straight people with plenty of problems.

    That's the point.

    This is just more prejudiced bigoted bull, and now it's aimed at gay people.

    What group will be next for the right to spit on?
     
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    This is false and has already been debunked on this forum. Stop repeating falsehoods that are verifiably untrue.
     
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    And? So what? A number of people just like sex - and they are rather ambivalent as to the partner. Many are bi-sexual.
    If you take the high and low from the studies, it shows that there is only a 1% change between between people who go from heterosexual to gay and those who go from gay to heterosexual (12% vs 13%). And studies that vary from 13% to 53%? You gotta question methodology with a range like that.
     
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    Yes it can just look at Olympic decatholon champion Bruce Jenner aka Caitlyn Jenner???
     
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    "Here’s new fodder for people who are ideologically opposed to walking down the aisle with Democrats. According to a new study, they are less faithful than Republicans when it comes to marriage. The Institute for Family Studies reveals:

    Republicans have more sex than Democrats and cheat less on their spouses. Political independents have sex even more often than Republicans but cheat at the same rate Democrats do. Republican sexual frequency is entirely explained by the fact that they’re more likely to be married than are Democrats. On the other hand, there’s no obvious explanation for the partisan difference in adultery.

    In fact, Republicans are 23% less likely to cheat than Democrats. Perhaps church attendance is a factor? According to the study, “Republicans tend to have happier marriages than do Democrats… Republicans are also more likely to be churchgoers, which in turn leads to happier relationships.”"

    https://www.truthrevolt.org/news/st...ns-are-more-faithful-have-better-and-more-sex

    "A new study by sociologists W. Bradford Wilcox and Nicholas Wolfinger determined that Republicans are more likely to be married, less likely to divorce, and more likely to be happy in their marriages than Democrats. Prior to this study, Wilcox had written two papers about how children in conservative states are more likely to grow up with both parents than in liberal ones. Could political stance really have an effect on a couple’s potential to have a happy marriage?

    The issue is more layered than politics, and includes underlying racial and religious factors as well. But numbers don’t lie—the analysis published on the Institute for Family Studies shows that 57 percent of Republicans are married as opposed to 40 percent of Democrats; 41 percent of Republicans have gone through a divorce, compared to 47 percent of Democrats; and, 67 percent of married Republicans claim to be in “very happy” marriages, compared to 60 percent of married Democrats."

    http://thescienceexplorer.com/humanity/do-republicans-have-happier-marriages-democrats

    Do Republicans get divorced or cheat on their spouses? Yes, but at a lower rate than Democrats, so they at least try to practice what they preach. Your complaints about Republicans cheating and getting divorces seems tangential to the topic of the thread, which is whether homosexuality is "fixed" or can change over time. You claim the study is hate and propaganda, but fail to state whether or not you think the study is accurate. Then you go on to rant about Republicans (a very small number of whom were involved in this study) and their morality, as if someone who steals an orange is forever forbidden from claiming that stealing is wrong. First of all, you don't know if anyone involved in the study is immoral in the way that you are claiming (cheating, divorce, wife beating, etc.). Second, you don't know if anyone involved in the study actually hates homosexuals. And third, you don't make any connection between being a hypocrite and being accurate. To use examples from the left, there are thousands of feminists who wouldn't dream of aborting their own child. Should they shut up about abortion? There are thousands of gun owners who support gun restrictions. Should they shut up about the 2nd amendment? There are millions of Catholics who use contraception. Should they all be drummed out of the Catholic church? There are millions of Democrats who have never had a homosexual encounter. Should they shut up about homosexual rights? They're all hypocrites, right?
     
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    Amend the year to 1964. I was tired and said the wrong year. I recall two lesbians but today would never recognize either. Perhaps more lesbians were there but it seemed strange to me for my brother to have lesbians show up to his tiny apartment. Even in 1964 such apartments were very tiny to afford the rent.
     
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    Should he lose the medals of the olympics due to fraud? At the time his performance was hot news.
     
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    I didn't read any of that.
     
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    What fraud did he commit?
     
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    I'm guessing that a study of prisoners would show even higher percentages.

    Anyway, I guess this means that conversion therapy can be helpful.
     
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    They don't feel any such obligation.
     
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    Religion isn’t biologically set in stone either, yes it protected.
     
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    A woman performing in the male contest and winning!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Wait a moment there cisco.

    At a Texas high school, the team normally prayed as a unit prior and following the game. Protected as you say they could not be prevented from praying.

    But the school was sued. and the school lost the the suit.

    There is a bit more.
    The school never was active in the prayers.
    Students could pray or not pray. Student players met in meetings and voted to pray or not pray.
    The school accomodation was one thing. The students could pray into a microphone. The way in congress a preacher prays for both the house and Senate.

    But they had to knock off praying since you claim it is protected. Funny innit?
     

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