In 3 Years, Cops Have Killed 450% More Citizens Than 4 Decades of Mass Shootings COMBINED

These "conservatives" are happy to use our tax dollars to bomb brown people in foreign countries. But feeding and clothing brown people in America is something they are not prepared to tolerate.

 

No, it's because cops in America aren't screened and trained properly. With proper screening and training, there wouldn't be any "jumpy" cops. I spent seven months patrolling Iraq where virtually everyone on the streets was armed. I wasn't "jumpy". I didn't freak out on people just because they had guns. I was trained to stay calm. If a cop can't remain calm in America, then they don't deserve to be a cop. End of story.

Yeah, then only the benevolent state will have guns, just like in North Korea.

 

How many years were you in the military or law enforcement, Mr. Expert?

 

2 yrs. Marine Corp. 69-71.

 

Are seriously suggesting we need to be armed because of a epidemic of killer cops?

 

You mean like all the central and eastern WA cops that refused to enforce un-Constitutional laws already?

 

dr assisted suicide is not murder, I hope if I am ever terminal and in severe pain, a dr will help me commit suicide, same as we would do for a terminal pet that was in severe pain

 

Humans did not create their own souls nor do they have a right to kill themselves.

 

forcing people to suffer with Terminal illness is wrong

 

There were 32 shootings in Chicago last weekend, 4 deaths. Police are militarized because their patrol area is a war zone.

 

Police shootings really escalated after a shift in training. A few decades ago, DHS started pushing a 'shoot first' curriculum, founded on the idea that the officers safety is paramount to all other concerns, and they should respond to any percieved threat without hesitation. Hesitation, of course, in the LE paradigm is not meaningfully different from situational assessment. Thus, cops are often taught to shoot first, and determine if the threat was real later. This means the officer's chance for survival is higher, and they'll be more available to enforce the law. It also means more of us will be unjustly shot.

If we want cops to shoot less, we have to be active in their training curriculum. As it is now, we allow them to be trained to act in one way, yet expect them to act in another. This is fail.

 

What was your MOS.

 

There are a variety of reasons why Americans should be armed.

 

Spoken like someone who's never actually been to a warzone.

 

An interesting and well-thought-out article, but it ignores a few things in its rush to justify guns and condemn police. 1) The overwhelming number of people shot by police were resisting arrest and/or engaging in some kind of violent behavior that endangered the police or others. Comparing the number of people shot by police ought to only cover those slayings that were unjustified. That number is considerably smaller, somewhere between 10-30% of all shootings, depending on who you believe. And grand juries, which only ever hear the prosecution's side of things, almost never indict police officers. The reason for that is that the police officer's job is a dangerous one, with sometimes only a split second between making the decision to shoot or ending up dead, so we tend to give the cops a wide latitude of permissible error. 2) The article is confounding the police in America with a police state somewhere else. No cops in America have standing orders to shoot any particular person or group of people. The government of the US is not engaged in a systematic purge of individuals by means of cops shooting people. The government is not targeting anyone by way of "death by cop". It is disingenuous to equate cops in America killing 3,733 "citizens" with the government of the United States having killed 3,733 people. Cops make 20 million traffic stops per year, and make more than 10 million arrests per year. And only ~1,000 of those arrests end up with a dead suspect? That's 1/100th of 1% if you don't want to do the math. Seems like cops are pretty good at their jobs to me. If the government was targeting people, you'd think it could convert more than 1/100th of 1% of all arrests into shootings. 3) While I don't support gun control for reasons I'll get into if you want, the problem with guns isn't mass shootings, which only account for something like 1% of all shootings, the problem with guns is back alley shootings and domestic cases, which account for the other 99%. In fact, even if we focused exclusively on the problem of crazy people getting hold of guns and prevented all mass shootings, we wouldn't even make a dent in the number of people getting shot, because most of the people doing the shooting aren't crazy. Over 11,000 people per year are shot to death, but only a handful of those occur in so-called mass shootings. And almost all of those doing the shooting are in their right minds. Keeping the guns out of their hands is a much more difficult task. 4) It is not a case of cognitive dissonance for conservatives to believe that a) government cannot be trusted and b) government needs to maintain law and order. Having lived in Miami for a short time, I can tell you that freedom cannot exist without law and order. My grandfather who lived there for 60 years said the government won't put the criminals in jail so the law-abiding have to turn their homes into jails. Every home in Miami has bars on the doors and windows to keep the criminals out. That's not freedom. And since the police are usually local and subject to closer scrutiny by the local populace as opposed to the out of touch and out of reach federal government, it's not even the same government that conservatives don't trust.

 

Brown people in America need to learn to feed and clothe themselves, just like white people do. We absolutely should not tolerate a dependent class.

 

Maybe 2600? Don’t remember the number, but the the title was Avation Technician Mate. Worked on A6A Grumman Intruders.

 

Well, it sure isn’t to defend ourselves from gangs of rogue police. However, certainly home invaders, armed thugs, and gang bangers, but the police? Nonsense. And if it were true, we’d need a lot more than a Smith & Wesson.

 

No. Not when White-racists are doing the "determining" if a shooting was wrongful or not ---especially when White cops shoot Black males.

 

There undoubtably are a few bad cops that shouldn't have their jobs and do violent and unlawful acts - just like in most other professions. To suggest that most or all cops are bloodthirty savages
just waiting for a chance to kill people is absurd and just feeds paranoia, which in turn contributes to more violence and deaths. If you want better screening for people hired to be police officers -
great. That would be constructive. Feeding hatred and fear is not.

 

Amen, brother, amen to that.

 

The biggest dependent class in the country can be found firmly ensconced within the military-industrial complex.

 

Okay, so would it be fair to say you're not exactly an expert on combat operations?

 

All defensive uses of a firearm are legitimate.

 

Thankfully, no. But did have infantry training with live fire. Not the same, but a taste of.