I address everything in another thread here. Trying to find a partner among Far Left women by attacking other men may be a working strategy, but it is a dangerous strategy. A man using this strategy risks being abused and treated as primary aggressor, or being falsely accused and presumed guilty.
I hope you don't include me in "blaming women" neither as "Trump supporter. Politically, I'm for degrowth, nationalist and pacifist. I don't know for pacifist, but clearly you can't support Trump and being for degrowth. I clearly dislike the left, but I'm not sure that you can be for degrowth and being on the "right". Incels are idiots. If you want deny the problem of men suicide or the despair of men which lost their children after a divorce, it's not my problem. People which behave like you are part of the problem.
I just looked at that other thread but find it to be mythic without any evidence to support its mysticism. Therefore, I cannot address it. On this thread, you say SJW's are responsible for certain conditions and legal double standards. However, these divides have been around well before the term SJW came into existence. In fact they started under patriarchal days and you have provided no evidence for your claim. If anything you should be blaming patriarchy for the problems you are complaining about.
I wish you success in finding a partner by this stuff. But if she accuses you, you are presumed guilty.
Onus is entirely on YOU to PROVE that male suicide is caused by divorce. That you are even making that absurd allegation seriously harms your credibility.
Indeed the Sentencing Gap existed before SJWs and I did not claim it was due to them. Presumption of Guilt, Male bashing in MSM are the result of SJW work. President Trump spoke in defence of Presumption of Innocence.
Forty plus years of being happily married to my partner and soulmate means that I have none of the issues that are consuming your thoughts 24*7.
Too many Leftist men are attacking me. I had an argument with a Leftist man married to a lawyer. She charges $300 per hour, but she would never explain laws to her husband. He called me a criminal. I had an argument with a Leftist man married to a psychiatrist. She charges her regular clients $300 per hour, but she never gives psychological help to her husband. He called me insane.
CCitizen makes a claim he cannot prove and one properly attributable to patriarchy. But there is a solution - pass the ERA and all legal double standards and practices would be ended once and for all: https://www.google.com/search?q=equ.....69i57j0l5.4452j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 For the record - I lobbied for passage of the ERA in the early 1970s. Thus, I sought solutions for the divides CC is complaining about and those of feminists alike.
I never claimed it is solely caused by divorce, but men which divorced are particulary overepresented among people which commit suicide. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1731658/pdf/v054p00254.pdf I'm basing myself over my personnal observations aswell, and I observed many women being particulary violent with words at their husband/BF, much more than the opposite case. So yes, there is clear link between divorce and suicide and even if single men have a slighty more higher suicide rate than married men, I suppose it's more because of their unability to accept their status. I suppose that some men suicide themselves because of the emotionnal violence of their wives, it's mostly a supposition that I can't really prove true, but you won't be able to prove it false either. Suicide rates are growing back in the USA since the 80's aswell even if for now, that's only to the level of the 80's, but if the situation continue, suicide rate would know historical summit. Considering how much divorced men are over represented in suicid statistics, I think it's absolutly justificated to warn young men of the risk of getting married.
Some of the things that all BLOTUS supporters appear to have in common are paranoia and less than optimal communication skills. I suspect those are prerequisites for being BLOTUS supporters.
Excellent point! Well worth noting is that it is RED states that have abjectly failed to endorse the ERA so this is definitely a SELF INFLICTED problem that the OP is complaining about..
Correlation does NOT imply causation. All you have provided is correlation. Where is your proof of causation? https://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/marriage-and-mens-health That Harvard study establishes that married men live longer than single men who were never married as well as longer than men who were divorced. The onus REMAINS on you to PROVE that single men who commit suicide are doing it because they never married while divorced men who commit suicide are doing it because of the divorce. You can't because all you have is your own Confirmation Bias that is leading into your erroneous assumption.
@Mr_Truth I'm for equality too, but I notice there is no sign of equality in situations where men are disadvantaged. It's impossible to discuss that matter with feminists, and they tend to call people that complain about that are often called "whiners", often by the same that can says later that if men don't cry it's because of a sexist cliche of the patriarchy. Feminists clearly oppose themselves to the men right movement and so work against complete equality. Most of the male disadvantage is in the familial situation. I think one of the most disadvantaged population is the poor divorced men. They have lost their right to see their children, they get the most deadly jobs and the most crippling jobs. They represent aswell most of the population of homeless people. They may be arrested because they smoke a little bit of marijuana to ease their pain. And then they have to listen rich kids saying that they're "oppressor" and "priviledged". Nowodays feminism enable rich female kid to claim being the victim of a system, and call the men which work in harsh factories, mines that they're the oppressor. Explain me, who defend those men ? Nobody. Yes, maybe a lot of those problems are inherited from the 19th century patriarcal, but don't tell me that leftists and feminists have any interest to make those problem stops. In fact, they will hush people which want those injustice to stop. @Derideo_Te You ask me to prove something that can't be proven. Men get the custody of their children only 10 % of the time. Maybe married men are healthy, but in the end most of them will end to divorce. Furthermore, maybe correlation isn't cause, but considering the occam razor, the simplest explanation if not proven wrong should be the most considered. Furthermore my point isn't to says that divorced men commit suicide because of divorce, I just notice a simple fact : they're a particulary risky population considering suicide. 83 % of father don't get the custody of their children. There is an increase of suicide, divorced men are a particulary risky population. What's the best, most secured way to prevent divorce ? Not getting married. Very few people take seriously the increase of suicide. Why ? I suppose it is because most people which commit suicide are white men (native american aswell), and that might benefit some people. Not getting married is a simple, costless (nobody want to get in debt for seing an unskilled therapist) solution to prevent men to commit suicide, but maybe you can offer a better solution ?
Sadly anyone who mentions discrimination against men is subject to vicious personal attacks. That is especially true for anyone in the Media or anyone with many Social Media Followers. Fortunately in the Internet Age it is impossible to stop information.
Ironically, feminists and SJW's are the only ones who offered solutions to the problems complained about above when they offered the ERA. Had it been passed women today would have to carry Selective Service cards, pay alimony, serve the same prison sentences upon conviction for crimes, and school teachers would be 50% male. Very ironic, indeed.
My allegation is that divorced men are one of the most risky population considering suicide rate. I proved my allegation and you're just spreading fake news, shame on you.
Ironic PROJECTION on your part is NOT my problem! You even ADMITTED that you could NOT substantiate your BOGUS allegation.
Perhaps it was a mistake for many men to reject ERA in 1970s. Now it is men who are fighting for Equality. Many modern feminists and men who are trying to seduce them are virulently attacking anyone who mentioned these issues.
I proved my claim that divorced men are one of the most risky population considering suicide. What did you asked me to prove ? That it wasn't just a correlation. You're the one that add a random fact "maybe that's a random correlation". Furthermore, you're random claim that divorced men are maybe just unlucky can easily being dismissed by the occam razor. You claimed that married men live longer than single men, but who know, it's maybe just a random correlation. You are absolutly unable to countersay the following statements : _ Divorced men are a particular risky suicide population. _ Divorced men are denied their status of father by not getting the custody most of them. _ The best way to not get divorced is not to get married. _ The best way to save a lot of men is having them not married. You can still try to claim is just a random correlation, more and more men realize that no marriage is best for them and walk away from the "plantation" and stop to marry as show movements as "MGTOW", as flawed are those movement because of all the misogyny. You don't need to be misogynistic to realize that most love relations are toxic and marriage a scam.
This very thread shows how evil The Enemy is. (I do not mean you personally -- your response is civilized.) The Enemy viciously and personally attacks anyone who just mentions discrimination against men. The Enemy considers compassion to men a crime. Those who try to defend men in Media, Campuses, YouTube are subject to an enormous torrent of abuse. By the Enemy I do not mean all feminists or all Leftists. We support Equality 100% -- if women are paid less they must get equal pay. The Enemy are the ones who attack people for compassion toward men. Any sane men who understands them will side with politicians they hate the most. President Trump. President Bolsonaro.
