13-Year-Old Girl Gets Publicly Shouted Down When She Compares Abortion To Slavery

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  1. Mac-7

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    As I keep pointing out we are just repeating ourselves and getting nowhere
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Law does not determine what is right or wrong, it preserves order and safety in society.



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    Good lord , was she stupid or what? The greatest destroyer of peace is war....along with the grinding awful poverty of the country she worked in..


    There is plenty in between....was she on drugs?

    "In between" are laws against murder.

    "in between " are laws protecting the rights of women which obviously she didn't believe in....I wonder why she hated women so much?
     
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    Do we need eugenics too?

    And when we start making all sorts of arbitrary loopholes, the line stops becoming so clear cut.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    No , human fetuses are human based on the fact that they are inside a human.


    So what other kind of fetus (besides human) would be in a human????





    A fetus is NOT A human being (as in NOUN, as in legal person)...it is human ( ADJECTIVE) if it's in a human and NO ONE has said anything different.


    Now answer the question:


    So what other kind of fetus (besides human) would be in a human????



    AGAIN, NO ONE IS FORCING YOU TO POST.


    Quit repeating the same thing and address posts....maybe even THINK about what they say and then I won't have to repeatedly show how wrong you are...
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    The greatest destroyer of peace is war....along with the grinding awful poverty of the country she worked in..
    Good lord , was she stupid or what? The greatest destroyer of peace is war....along with the grinding awful poverty of the country she worked in..


    because if a mother can kill her own child, what is left for me to kill you and you to kill me? There is nothing between."
    —- Mother Teresa
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    There is plenty in between....was she on drugs?

    "In between" are laws against murder.

    "in between " are laws protecting the rights of women which obviously she didn't believe in....I wonder why she hated women so much?



    What has that to do with the post of mine you HAD to cherry pick ?
     
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    If a woman tried to chop off her arm, they'd put her in a psychiatric ward under suicide watch and careful observation.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    A fetus is NOT A human being (as in NOUN, as in legal person)...it is human ( ADJECTIVE) if it's in a human and NO ONE has said anything different.




    :roflol::roll: Oh, DO, please show some correlation between that and the post of mine you quoted....
     
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    Your statement was implying it was part of her body.
     
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    Not in this country they aren't
     
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    THIS is the post you quoted:

    FoxHastings said:
    A fetus is NOT A human being (as in NOUN, as in legal person)...it is human ( ADJECTIVE) if it's in a human and NO ONE has said anything different.""


    WHERE TF does it say it's part of her body?
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    It is but I didn't say that in that post....
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    I'm not hiding behind anything.

    WHERE TF do you think illegal aliens come from ?

    OUTER SPACE?

    NO, they come from other countries where they are CITIZENS.


    That's irrelevant to this discussion...in their home country they are citizens because they have been BORN.
     
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    Wrong. Only 30 out of 195 countries have birthright citizenship.

    Even here in America its questionable because the law on the books was created to include those who were once slaves. It's not ment for people breaking our laws by sneaking in.
     
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    So you had to sneak in erroneous comments about me without quoting me....Gee, that sure helps what little credibility you had :) NOT.
     
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    FACT: No one can be a citizen unless they are BORN......….Show the country that gives fetuses citizenship.
     
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    How can you murder a non person then?

    Killing a pregnant woman is considered a double homicide in every state that I know. How can that be if the "thing" inside the womb isn't a legal person?
    As usual, libs spew words out their butts.

    The Unborn Victims of Violence Act of 2004(Public Law 108-212) is a United States law which recognizes an embryo or fetus in utero as a legal victim

    Does a person seize to be a person simply because their mother wants to abort them?
    #liblogic
     
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    States have different laws on how they deal with someone injuring or killing a fetus.

    Homicide is not always murder and killing a fetus is not always homicide..


    Simple, the fetus has PROTECTIONS but NOT rights.

    The purpose of the UVVA was to give additional charges if someone TAKES AWAY A WOMAN'S REPRODUCTIVE RIGHT by killing her fetus.

    It is considered an additopnal loss, additional injury.

    IT DOES NOT SAY that a FETUS IS A LEGAL PERSON.
    In FACT, it has a clause that say it has nothing to do with abortion or abortion rights and cannot interfere in them.

    You should READ it sometime rather than just talking about it.









    Butts is spelled with two "t"s.
    Maybe it does recognize a fetus as a legal VICTIM but NOT a legal PERSON.


    I have never seen a "lib" say that so I don't know what you pulled that out of.

    To be a person one has to have been born.

    If they haven't been born then they never were a person...so wanting to abort them does NOT cease their personhood, they never had it.




    The word is "cease" not "seize"
     
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    in the old days some just called it a virgin birth
     
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    Jennifer
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    This young lady chose life instead of an abortion, & she found a family to adopt her baby. By giving birth & seeing her baby, she realized the truth that PP doesn't want women to know, "this baby would have been gone...he deserves so much more than that, bc it wasn't his fault"

    https://twitter.com/i/status/1140578972058603520
     
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    no they would not, who you trying to kid
     
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    you could use the same logic to justify rape? sorry, just cause a baby is born doesn't make rape alright

    in fact, I have never seen a rape baby support rape cause without it, they would never of been born
     
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    Libs argue rape. As if if that exception was outlined, they would become pro life.

    They argue in bad faith.
     
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    That's what you do to people who want to pull a baby halfway out and stick an ice pick in the back of it's head.
     
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    And WTF does the "Mandatory Victims Restitution Act have to do with what we were discussing, the Unborn VICTIMS of Violence Act?







    Yup, and one has to be born to be a person.


    Nope, it may have tried to but it has a clause in it that says it has no effect on abortion law. :)




    Obviously they can as shown by the UVVA.

    Flamebait by the desperate duly noted :)

    But it has never been deemd a legal person.


    For pete's sake learn English...the word is CEASE NOT SEIZE...they are two different words having different meanings...look them TF up!!!
    Which you have never proven.


    Let's pretend a fetus is a legal person.

    Where's it's Social Security number?

    Why does it have MORE rights than any other legal person?

    Why does it's existence destroy the rights of others?
     
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    republicans argue rape is a gift from God as if the women should be happy to deliver her rapists baby
     
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    Republicans want to take away the choice from others, but when they make the choice for themselves... what do they choose?

    "Playing God"
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/nov/04/usa.health

    "But, given the vehemence with which he has been fighting to prolong Terri's life, it is a little surprising to learn that Robert decided to turn off the life-support system for his mother."

    Robert says. "I was very angry with God because I didn't want to make those decisions."

    he first is angry at the Government for not letting him choose, then angry at God for making him choose?

    it's hard to make that choice, but it should always be the next of kins choice
     
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