Most Democrats think "Medicare For All" means they can still keep their plans

Convert it to private savings account. Similar to a IRA

 

"Medicare for All" like Obamacare, does not work fiscally, unless it is forced upon ALL. What that will mean are great shortages in doctors, nurses, and other medical professionals as the primary market is government regulated. That means long waits, poor health care, and new professionals opting out of health care as a profession, because it's just not lucrative.

These types of programs only work when you have a mono-cultural populace, and even then it can get sketchy.

 

well that's something to consider....privatization of SS is likely the only way to actually save it. The left of course won't go for that.

 

Have you considered that insurance companies make a healthily profit and Medicare does not?
That's just one example.

 

So your source attacks the study without much in the way of disproving it.
For example the examiner says, “The study determines that the U.S. system is worse because it lacks universal health insurance coverage and the report emphasizes “equity” as one of the key factors in evaluating a health care system.” which is a pertinent metric. If 99 people cannot get care but 1 person gets great care that doesn’t mean the healthcare system is great.

Another example, “The study also relies on surveys of patient satisfaction, which are subjective, because they vary based on people's expectations. If people have low expectations, then a system with objectively bad health outcomes could still be viewed as satisfactory.” Patient satisfaction is a usual method to track... well... patient satisfaction.

And finally it ends with points that the study does not take into account five year cancer survivor statistics but then argues that it should pretty much ignore infant mortality. We should have more innovation we pay 2 - 5 times what other nations do. We should have better survivability we pay 2 - 5 times what other nations do. We are number 1 in cost and number 10+ by every other metric besides innovation and cancer survivability (and the survivability likely only tracks people that can afford treatment — see my first paragraph)


Yeh you busted that graph all right... Did you even read your source or did you stop at the headline?

 

Is it? How much will my taxes increase? How much do I pay now? I'd love to see the numbers to support this. If it's true, I'm on board.

 

That's a great example of why they have better customer service, they want your business. The Federal Govt not so much

 

I'll go back to my initial question - Are there some Dem plans that don't offer the option to keep your existing plan to augment what is being offered as 'medicare for all'?

 

The doctor shortage will get better when the AMA allows more interns.

 

Your kidding. Right?

 

Current expenditure per capita (using the purchasing power parity) for the UK was $4,192 in 2016. This can be compared to $9,892 in the USA

https://www.nhsconfed.org/resources/key-statistics-on-the-nhs

 

Poor babies.

Highest paying professions




There are 7 more after this that are not healthcare related.
https://www.investopedia.com/personal-finance/top-highest-paying-jobs/

 

Doubtful

 

No, the Federal Govt doesn't need your business....they have no competition....they actually just take your money

 

That's not how much I pay, that's an average across the entire country. I pay far less than the figure you quoted.

Also I don't believe you can say for certain that the cost of healthcare per capita under MFA would be the same as the current UK figure. There are so many factors that affect that number.

 

I was hoping to have around 3.5 million saved by retirement. I think the joke is on me though, everything will be burnt to ground before I reach retirement. I have to leave my 401k in the market, I do not have the option to pull it out and put it into gold or land (what a sick joke). At this point, I am 95% confident that my lifetime savings will be wiped out in the next decade.

 

I'm not sure how you think my customer service could be better.
I show the Dr. my card the first time I go see him each year and that's it.

 

You Doctor doesn't work for the Federal Govt....nor does he work for any insurance company. Your Doctor's office is likely got pretty good customer service, because there are other Doctors in the area he is competiting for business against.

You know the difference between Medicare and your doctor....right?

 

Yeah, I do. And I know none of the proposals nationalize doctors.

 

They wouldn’t compete, they’d supplement

 

It just ****s them

 

Who's ******* who?

Highest paying jobs.

 

nope Medicare for all would put them out of business, why would anyone pay for private insurance? Of course once all the privates are gone and Medicare can't provide for everyone watch coverage start to be cut back and taxes go up.

 

even with private care your paying for other people stuff... that is the point of insurance, the more people in the plan, the less the risk to everyone in the plan, we all pitch in and hope we never need it

 

Your 401k will have its ups and downs over the years. Hang in there. Your savings won't be "wiped out" unless the entire economy completely crashes, putting us back into the stone age. I don't see that happening in a country with as much wealth as ours, as many natural resources as ours, and an educated workforce. Recession? Sure. It has happened in the past, and it will happen in the future. But only a catastrophic meltdown of our whole system can wipe out all your savings. Keep doing what you're doing.