Why have we lost our patriotism?

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  1. LongLineRider

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    It became popular amongst liberals to hate America back in the sixties....and this travesty has only grown since then.

    'For the haters, it’s open season on the American ideal.

    Colin Kaepernick doesn’t like today’s American flag because it reminds him of police brutality and he doesn’t like Betsy Ross’ O.G. flag because it reminds him of slavery. I’m starting to think maybe Colin Kaepernick is not so fond of the flag, or of the country that made him rich'

    https://nypost.com/2019/07/03/this-fourth-of-july-why-have-we-lost-our-patriotism

    https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/does-colin-kaepernick-hate-america/
     
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    If you wanted an honest conversation about patriotism don't start it by bashing liberals and bringing up Colin Kap, who I can't and don't speak for.

    It doesn't make you un-patriotic to point out what you think is wrong about your country. Quite the opposite actually.
     
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    If you want to work backwards on why we lost our patriotism, then kaepernick is the perfect place to start. Then we can move on to the kneelers and flag burners.

    You seem to be a lib, how do you show your patriotism? I’ll tell you this, I don’t express my love for my wife by telling her she sucks.
     
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    That is the problem with Trumpservatives. If you disagree with the beliefs of them and their messiah, you are labeled an American hating, baby killing, Muslim, Communist loving socialist. And they wonder why half the Nation sees their idol as a dimwitted ****stick feeding into their irrational fears simply to fool them into voting for him again.

    Meh, oh well. Stranger Things and BBQ tomorrow. Merica!
     
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    Still love Cuba and Venezuela and say they’re better than us? You never did move there, did you. Why?
     
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    Hey Walt, name a time when the left put America and Americans ahead of foreigners. Go for it.
     
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    Family and career. England would be nice though. But I think the Pacific Northwest would be nice too. Just cause a dipshit is POTUS is not a good enough reason to leave. He will be gone eventually.
     
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    9/11.
    Hey Steve, name a time where our POTUS put America and Americans ahead of him. Go for it.
     
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    Funny, you didn’t mention any of the shitholes you guys swear aren’t shitholes. My wife and I considered the Pac NW, but it’s far too crazy up there.
     
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    Wanting a minimum standard of health coverage for all is one.
    Calls to end gerrymandering is another as it allows politicians to pick their voters instead of the voters picking their politicians.

    I want a party that actually cares about all American’s well being and wants to keep illegal invaders out
    Pro gun, pro environment, pro healthcare, pro education, pro fiscal responsibility, and pro strong national security. Less corruption, less money in politics, less morally bankrupt politicians.
     
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    Border security, Iran deal, Paris accord, tariffs, trade deals, cut regulations.....and best of all, preventing Obama’s third term.
     
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    PacNW is 100 times better than Texas where my Family lives. My God, other than Austin, that State sucks ass. Too damn hot and humid. Austin reminds me of San Diego, kinda.
     
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    Thanks for the Trumpublican talking points, but I asked what has he done to benefit Americans rather than himself. The Law doesn't allow Obama a third term.
     
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    You should probably gauge better/worse where older experienced people retire.
     
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    As I have said, I can't and won't talk for Colin Kap.

    How do I show my patriotism? I am a productive member of society. When I see a person in need of help I try to help. I don't find it a need to drape myself in a flag. I have several family members who are/were military and to a person they don't feel it necessary to do so either. I also have grandfathers who fought in WWII. One in the pacific theatre the other in the European. One came back with a limp from a German bullet, the other flew missions without a scratch. The one that was wounded was forever changed from that war and was never able to connect with another person again. Neither of my grandfathers draped themselves in flags either. They came home and worked and supported their families.

    As far as my wife goes, when I think she is in the wrong I tell her. She does the same to me. Criticizing something doesn't mean you don't love that something. What a either/or simplistic world view.
     
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    That’s reality. Everything I mentioned benefits all Americans.
     
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    Nah, they just like it there because they are always cold. Hell, my Mom will come where I am when she can't care for herself any longer.
     
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    Tariffs have been brutal for my place of employment. No reason why commodities should have price changes so drastic and frequent. Makes it damn challenging to negotiate pricing for material. Pulling out of the Iran deal has not benefitted us. There is still no wall. And Mexico isn't going to pay for it as he promised. So I ask again, what exactly has he done to benefit us again?
     
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    :roflol:

    Your "rebuttal" is a RW BS Article from 11 YEARS AGO?:bored:

    Dated 8/3/08.

    You may want to consider updating your Copypasta File.

    ^Nothing personal, just a friendly suggestion.

    Anyway, as to "Patriotism" in 2019?

    How can people expect anyone to be Patriotic with an IMBECILIC Buffoon (like Trump) in the White House?

    (An article of "rebuttal" from 2008? :roflol: :bored:)
     
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    My mother has already moved to my city and when it comes time she will have a room at my house. No nursing homes for her. House nurses when needed and when it comes time hospice. That is yet another way I am patriotic. I take care of my own.

    On another note, and this is stunningly lost on the right, is that freedom of speech is something we as Americans fight for. It is a tenant of our society. When they denounce someone using their free speech they are themselves being unpatriotic. I try not to waste much time thinking about it.

    Enjoy your BBQ tomorrow!
     
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    I can't imagine being a builder and having to quote a price. You could really lose your shirt.
     
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    Yeah. It has been a challenge to acquire metal at a decent price longer than 2 weeks before the price skyrockets.
     
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    Ridiculous response...

    TDS much?

    Anyhow.....could you not find one thing in the article that you could dispute?

    Just complaining about the date of it is rather lame boyo.

    As in.....truth is eternal.
     
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    You are like a stock day-trader, lol. Plus, even if you place an order at a certain price doesn't that change if the tariff changes when it crosses our border?
     
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