Faith vs Science?

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    I quoted proof that the papyri line up with the Bible, earlier in the thread.
     
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    What does the belief of evolving to fit our environment have to do with the facts I mentioned that prove that there is a Creator?
     
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    There is no evidence in the fossil record for macroevolution, which is defined as one species changing into another species.
     
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    the bible and papyri described the same event.
     
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    God is self existing and eternal. The Bible says God is from everlasting to everlasting.
     
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    There are always natural limits to biological change. Natural selection is just that-selection. It cannot create anything new; it can only select from the information contained in the organism's genetic blueprint.

    The first assertion of macroevolution is that living matter came from non-living matter. There is only one problem with that; it has been shown to be impossible. the scientific method requires repeatable observation to prove something, yet despite scientist's earnest attempts, even baseless claims, they have never been able to create life from non-life. It is unscientific and inaccurate for evolutionists to claim that spontaneous generation occurred-that is, that nonliving chemicals produced living organisms sometime in the distant past.
     
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    Perhaps you'd like to tell us what you understand about either that Einstein did not.
    Really? You think when theists say "God" they mean the laws of physics?
    Certainly that would serve dogmatic atheists very well; humanity at large, not so much.
     
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    Unlike most other worldviews, bibical Christianity is built on historical events.
     
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    Thank you for establishing that you were using an argument from incredulity fallacy.
     
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    Thank you for establishing that you have no meaningful subject matter knowledge when it comes to fossils and the process of fossilization.
     
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    Creationist kneejerk denialism is not a substitute for subject matter knowledge.
     
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    No I wouldn't. It has nothing to do with the subject of the thread.

    No. I didn't say that. I explained what I would call god. What is the point of arguing against what I didn't say?
     
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    What's that?
     
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    I heard someone say that there are human chimp intermediates. those are misinterpretations.
     
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    This isn’t even a rebuttal of evolution, let alone evidence your god exists.
     
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    No you didn’t, because it doesn’t.
     
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    what are the transitional forms?
     
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    Special pleading and circular argument. Fail
     
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    How is it circular?
     
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    Actual history, supported by documented evidence refutes this claim.
     
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    All of them. Every single living thing is a transitional form, as evolution isn’t static.
     
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    God is real because the Bible says god is real. The Bible is the word of god.

    Circular. Fail.
     
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    You have presented no facts or evidence to even suggest there MIGHT be a creator, let alone prove that there is one. Lol
     
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    I believe the Bible because it fits together like a puzzle piece. we all come from somewhere, we are imperfect, in human laws bad things that people do have consequences. That is why the gospel makes sense.
     
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    But the Bible is directly refuted by actual scientific and historical evidence.
     
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