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When will religion be overteken by logic?

Discussion in 'Religion & Philosophy' started by James Evans, Jul 6, 2019.

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    you were boiling a group down to the worst among the group, I did the same, when it's ones own group they don't see it the same as when it's another group

    I am just trying to point out the error in that logic

    there is bad Christians, bad Muslims, bad Buddhists, bad Atheists and of course bad antifa members

    but only saying there is 'bad Christians' will allow some Christians to see this fact

    all the Christians, Muslims and Buddhist I know are good people (don't know any antifa members) - but the reality is there is bad apples out there of all groups
     
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    What group did I boil down to "the worst among the group?"
     
    Lil Mike, Jul 15, 2019
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  3. FreshAir

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    maybe I misunderstood you
     
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    There is a lot of that going around...
     
    Lil Mike, Jul 15, 2019
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    I think you need to give up the ghost. lol
    Recording different or even partial parts of the same event does not discredit it.
     
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    How can you be sure that everything you believe in is true?
     
    chris155au, Jul 15, 2019
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    That would not end well for them, lol.
     
    James Evans, Jul 15, 2019
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    It is only when you learn to walk in humility that you begin a relationship with the God of all Creation. Your idea of taking care of your fellow man is flawed because without Godly wisdom, there is no hope.
     
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    You hit the nail right on the head Hoosier8. Mankind will not recognize the flaws of human Nature without humbly submitting to his creator.
     
    yabberefugee, Jul 16, 2019
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    Wisdom comes from humans, not God, since there is no God. The bible has many good teachings in it, but it was written by humans.
     
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    I was created by my parents.
     
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    Perhaps you'll experience humility in your life. Some don't.
     
    yabberefugee, Jul 16, 2019
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    Without human wisdom and our material needs, there would be no civilization and no understanding at all of our human failings that your religion (et.al) attempts to explain, contain and direct.
     
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    Have never known anyone that walked with Jesus that was a bad person.
     
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    Which human do you listen to that suffices all your needs in every situation?
     
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    Do you mean like realizing that your own religion may not actually be the one true view of the universe?
     
    WillReadmore, Jul 16, 2019
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    Showed you the blueprints they drew up before you were conceived, did they?
     
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    All my needs in every situation? Seriously? I have no king, no savior, no infallible mentor, I am a mere human being trying the best I can to live a good life surrounded by as much love and respect I can make, take and earn.
     
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    recombinant dna of the parents is a person's biological blueprint.
     
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    goes for you.
     
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    nope, not personally, sure I have seen many cases in the news or online, but in my real life, no, do not know any bad Christians... or Muslims for that matter
     
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    Why do you assume I haven't? You don't know me.
     
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    so how is that working out for mankind... we sure are discovering the flaws of religions fanaticism... 9-11 anyone....

    science and observation is teaching us more about human nature then submitting to a creator ever would
     
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    I have made that perfectly clear, I have no way of knowing for sure, I believe what I do, but I know I may be wrong and will not know until I die for sure

    btw, most Christians and Muslims I think accept that they don't really know, they just believe, it just the fanatics that think they "know"

    the ones that scare me are the ones that think me not believing like them will upset their Jealous God and he will punish them and society for my lack of belief as then they feel they have a right to convert or harm\kill
     
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    Goes for everybody.
     
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