People are not racists because they DO racist things...

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  1. Golem

    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    People are not racists because they DO racist things...Exactly the opposite: People do racist things because they ARE racists.

    And this is where more than one I know says "Huh?" and begins typing an ad-hominem without reading any further. Keep reading. Debate the facts, if you dare!

    Racism is not something you DO. It's something you ARE. And then you act accordingly.

    So when Trump "confuses" the country where members of The Squad are from. Or when Trump questions Obama's country of origin. , That's not what makes him a racist. That only shows that he's been a racist all the time. He has never confused the country of origin of Pelosi, or Hillary, or Biden, or .... any of his white political opponents. He only gets confused about the country of origin of anybody who is not white like him.

    This is important to understand because, if you do, you will understand why torturing non-white aliens, even if they are children, is meaningless to him.
     
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    The only racists in Washington are the libs who want to push Israel into the sea.
     
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    The problem sir is that most of what you assume to be racist is not.
     
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    One way or another, Republicans will make a campaign issue about the ethnic origin of any non-white Democrat who stands out. Be it questioning their nationality (as in the case of the Squad), or how they migrated, or why the migrated, or what they did before they came to the country... Anything to question their ethnic origin of a non-white. Of white people, even their white opponents... not so much, unless they can link them with non-whites.

    This is the racist card that they feed their most extremist core base.
     
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    Golem Well-Known Member Donor

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    You support a President who called "good people" a bunch of Nazis screaming "Jews will not replace us!" in Charlottsville, and you make this false accusation?
     
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    NOnsense. the only one gives a crap about race are democrats it's that word illegal we have a problem with.
     
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    Wrong

    One has to give evidence of racism so it is defined by actions and words


    Confusing someones country of origin is not racist

    Telling someone to back where they came from is not racist


    Calling such statements racist is a lie and false by any and all reasonable standards
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    That is false


    You have to spin and misquote every time because he said no such thing

    Same with his tweet which is not racist

    Your trope is dead
     
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    It is not a racist card at all

    You really need to learn about racism as you are out of touch and your posts are massively lacking in facts logic or accuracy as usual
     
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    Trump wasn't calling the Nazis "good people".

    He was calling the the people who didn't want historic statues taken away by crazed mobs "good people". There are plenty of people like that who are not Nazis.
     
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    The term racist is thrown around so freely, I am not how you determine whether people are racists. Different races have different characteristics and values. Does recognizing and stating that make you a racist? It could be argued that just the oposite is true. You are a racist if you refuse to acknowledge that different races have characteristics different than ours. I am not just talking abut skin color.

    My mother would have beat me with a switch, if I made derogatory comments towards blacks because her mother had a loving black housekeeper who helped her in her old age. I attended St Louis University as a young man. Occasionally, I would go across the river into St Louis Illinois and do a little bar hopping in the black part of town. I was told by a black class mate that was dangerous and he wouldn't even go into that area. Recognizing that black areas in Chicago and other metro areas are more dangerous, does not make me racist. You don't dare talk about something like that because you will be called a racist.
     
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    If you say to a co-worker at your job "Go back to where you came from", you would be fired on the spot for making a racist remark!
     
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    The House of Representatives passed a resolution condemning Trump for his "racist comments" concerning four Democratic black congresswomen. The resolution passed largely along party lines — 235 Democrats joined by only four Republicans who supported the measure.

    The only way to defend Trump is to deny reality and insist that black is white, night is day, and racist remarks are not racist remarks. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy provide apt examples.

    Several members of Congress have called Trump's remarks racist.

    McConnell dismissed those accusations, saying Trump "is not a racist." Then he tried to change the subject. “I think the tone of all of this is not good for the country but it’s coming from all different ideological points of view. To single out any segment of this I think is a mistake,” he added.

    McCarthy (R-Calif.) insisted that Trump's tweets telling four minority congresswomen to "go back" to where they came from were not racist. When asked whether Trump's weekend tweets were racist, he, too, tried to change the subject. "No, this is about ideology. This is about socialism versus freedom." Huh!

    I see. So, according to the GOP leadership, telling a black person to go back where they came from is expressing "different ideological points of view" and has something to do with "ideology, socialism, and freedom."

    I wonder if these two Republican leaders know how stupid they sound.

    The GOP is being led down a dark path.
     
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    Evidence:

    "...Examples of potentially unlawful conduct include insults, taunting, or ethnic epithets, such as making fun of a person's foreign accent or comments like, "Go back to where you came from, " whether made by supervisors or by co-workers."​

    https://www.eeoc.gov/eeoc/publications/immigrants-facts.cfm
     
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    Trump is lying to you.

    American Jews Democratic (or "libs"), with 71% of Jewish voters choosing Democrat candidates and only 25% choosing Republicans since 1968. https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-voting-record-in-u-s-presidential-elections.

    In the 2012 presidential election, 68% of Jews voted for Barack Obama. In the 2016 Election, 71% of Jews voted for Hillary Clinton.

    When are you going to learn?
     
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    From 2008 through 2016 anytime Obama was criticized in any meaningful way the Left collectively SHRIEKED "Racism!" and "Racist!" When A.O. C. accused Nancy Pelosi of being a racist last week NO leftist agreed with A.O.C. and yet no leftist -- or at least damn few -- condemned A.O.C. for cynically playing the political leftist Race Card against Pelosi.

    Trump tells hate-filled leftist politicians to go back to their dumps of origin -- which was Dem Party devastated Detroit and another such city for at least two of them -- the Left AND their leftist-allied MSM SHRIEKED that Trump was racist . . . while being unable to explain HOW telling nation hating scum to leave . . . fix problems there . . . and then return and tell us HOW they managed it . . . is racist.

    Fortunately people who ARE NOT Kool-Aid drinkers of Leftist political propaganda have figured this out, and are the very same political independents who will be voting Trump back into the presidency at the end of 2020. Meanwhile -- being unable to learn anything meaningful from their own political history -- the political Left will continue auto-playing that tattered and old political Race Card for everything under the sun . . . and then wonder WHY they no longer win.
     
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    The OP says "So when Trump "confuses" the country where members of The Squad are from. Or when Trump questions Obama's country of origin. , That's not what makes him a racist."

    How absurd that you respond to a post without reading it!
     
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    False!

    Not wasting my time with anybody who doesn't read the OP
     
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    No you would not

    It is not racist and being fired does not prove it is
     
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    Go back where you came from AND THEN RETURN and tell us how you fixed problem is not racist. It's just that the political Left figures that THIS TIME they can damage Trump because magically people are going to be incapable of thinking through leftist propaganda.

    Pssst . . . if people were incapable of thinking through leftist political propaganda, however, then the collective media blitz to get corrupt to the bone Hillary Clinton into the Oval Office would have worked.
     
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    Unlawful conduct does not mean racist conduct and it was not a racist tweet
     
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    You mean you did not realize that A.O.C. called Nancy Pelosi a racist? Wow! Just where and how do you get your news?
     
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    I did read it and you have no evidence that he is a racist

    Especially since questioning Obama's place of birth and telling women to back where they came from are not racist expressions or expressions of racism
     
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    Very racist! "Go back where you came from" is the offensive remark. But it's not the reason why we know Trump is a racist. Read the OP!
     
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    "Ethnic epithet" does mean racist conduct. And cherry picking words does not mean you understand what you're reading
     
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