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Berkeley becomes first U.S. city to ban natural gas in new homes

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  1. nra37922

    nra37922 Well-Known Member

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    "Berkeley became the first city nationwide to ban the use of natural gas in new low-rise residential buildings in a unanimous vote Tuesday by the City Council.

    The ordinance, introduced by Councilwoman Kate Harrison, goes into effect Jan. 1, 2020, and phases out the use of natural gas by requiring all new single-family homes, town homes and small apartment buildings to have electric infrastructure. After its passage, Harrison thanked the community and her colleagues “for making Berkeley the first city in California and the United States to prohibit natural gas infrastructure in new buildings.”

    https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/arti...y-to-ban-natural-14102242.php?t=ea39d0f200&f?

    OUT, out, clean cheap natural gas lets use more dirty and expensive electrical power...
     
    nra37922, Jul 17, 2019
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    The Mello Guy Well-Known Member

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    California already gets half it’s electricity from renewable sources and it’s only going to increase.
     
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  3. Steve N

    Steve N Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    California has rolling blackouts. And during emergencies people's options are now reduced.
     
    Steve N, Jul 17, 2019
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    We have Nat Gas for our water heater, stove and a line out back for the grill. Wonderful for Hurricanes.
     
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    They are not totally restricting usage of gas just in new construction starting next year..and gas maybe cheap but not from a supplier in the country it can be very expensive since it is a commodity which gets high the colder it gets...
     
    Moonglow, Jul 17, 2019
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    Warms those hurricanes up in no time, eh?
     
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    I stopped using gas twenty years ago and never regretted it..
     
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    We do? 41 years here in northern CA and I’ve never seen one
     
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    When they can't afford the high electrical bills they can always bun rats. No shortage of them.
     
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    Whos yous gonna believe Steve or yer own eyes?
     
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    Nah. Just let’s me cook food indefinitely regardless of power. Anyone who lives in S.FL knows what it’s like living without power for days if a Hurricane hits.
     
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    No where in the US is there a shortage..
     
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    So you’re literally saying rolling blackouts don’t exist because we can all read the news you know.
     
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    Must be why it is building new gas plants.
     
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    We once went two weeks in the winter when we had three days of rain turn into an ice storm and the temp dropped to -22 in Southern Missouri one year...I just burned a lot of wood off of the 43 acres of woods I live on..
     
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    Any acres of woods in FL are protected parks, hehe. And we don’t have fireplaces, for the most part.
     
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    I don't..I lived outside for two weeks till power was restored..
     
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    Outside in FL at night in the summer after a hurricane...not a place many want to be. Get eaten alive. But Look at how different people live in different parts of the country:)
     
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    I dunno I’m telling you I’ve never experienced them in northern ca. At least not that I remember.
     
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    It’s a SOCal thing. You didn’t know?
     
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    That’s what I thought. Maybe why Berkeley isn’t concerned.
     
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    Eh, so much for your warm fire light moonglow. This articl is from 2015, probably a total ban now.

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/patch....g-regulations-berkeley-just-got-more-strict-0

    Wood Burning Regulations in Berkeley Just Got More Strict
    The Bay Area Air Quality Management District is adopting stronger new provisions that expand the agency’s current wood burning rules.
    By Autumn Johnson | Oct 23, 2015 2:37 pm ET

    As winter weather approaches and homes and businesses begin firing up fireplaces and heaters, the air district has strengthened its wood burning regulations, including prohibiting wood burning devices from being installed in new buildings.
     
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    Wood Burning Regulations in Berkeley Just Got More Strict
    The Bay Area Air Quality Management District is adopting stronger new provisions that expand the agency’s current wood burning rules.
    By Autumn Johnson | Oct 23, 2015 2:37 pm ET

    As winter weather approaches and homes and businesses begin firing up fireplaces and heaters, the air district has strengthened its wood burning regulations, including prohibiting wood burning devices from being installed in new buildings.
     
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    I don't think that it should ban natural gas, it is generally a clean burn. I could understand a phasing out, but a complete ban, no.
     
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