MS-13 gang members indicted after 'medieval-style' killing spree in Los Angeles

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  1. APACHERAT

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    What I've read, the last time someone was bayoneted in America was a soldier who stuck a bayonet in the back of a famous warchief who was already in custody during the late 1870's.
     
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    Ah I see. Your point gets shown to be nonsense regarding republicans and their wall so you have to deflect to a strawman.

    Carry on.
     
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    I was invited to be an honorable member of the "Goat Locker Room" because I was so politically incorrect even though I was never a CPO but a Marine.
     
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    I'm waiting to find out how many of these 19 illegal alien MS-13 members had prior contact with local LE or were released from the L.A. County or local city jails jail because of California's sanctuary state law.
     
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    So deflection is your answer to being caught making **** up?
     
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    APACHERAT Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Playing the **** card is no different than playing the race card.
     
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    MS13 is and always has been an authoritarian right wing group. They no doubt vote heavily Republican.
     
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    The MS13 was founded in the poor, marginalized neighborhoods of Los Angeles in the 1980s. As a result of the civil wars wracking El Salvador, Guatemala and Nicaragua, refugees flooded northward. Many of them wound up in Los Angeles, living among the mostly Mexican neighborhoods of East and Central Los Angeles, as well as the San Fernando Valley.

    While the Mexican gangs reigned in the local underworld, the war-hardened immigrants quickly organized themselves into competing groups, the strongest of which was called the Mara Salvatrucha Stoners or MSS.

    The orgins of the name are still disputed, but “mara” is a Central American term for gang. “Salva” refers to El Salvador. “Trucha” is a slang term for “clever” or “sharp.”

    Salvatruchas was also the name given to the locals who fought against William Walker, an ambitious businessman and proponent of slavery from the United States who tried to subdue various parts of Central America with a small army in the 1850s. Walker, after a brief stint as the self-proclaimed president of Nicaragua, was overrun and executed by Honduran locals.

    For their part, the Stoners were composed of refugees from El Salvador in the Pico Union neighborhood who spent most of their time listening to heavy metal music, drinking and smoking. With time, the gang evolved, shedding their original Stoner name and image: The MSS became the MS.

    The gang’s rivals took note. Conflict between the MS and the 18th Street, or Barrio 18, was particularly fierce in and around Los Angeles. The fighting put the gang on the radar of officials who began to jail them in large numbers in the late 1980s and early 1990s.

    Inside prison, the MS was forced to bow to another master, the Mexican Mafia, or “la eMe” for short, whose power extended from the jails to the streets. The Mafia’s umbrella, known as the “Sureños,” included many prominent gangs and stretched into much of the southwest of the United States and Mexico.

    The MS13’s subservience afforded the gang more protection in the streets and in prison. In return, the MS provided hitmen and paid the Mafia regular quotas from their criminal proceeds. It also added the number 13, the position M occupies in the alphabet, to their name. Thus, the MS became the MS13.

    By the mid-1990s, partly as a way to deal with the gangs and partly as a product of the get-tough immigration push toward the end of the presidency of Bill Clinton, the US government began a program of deportation of foreign-born residents convicted of a wide range of crimes. This enhanced deportation policy vastly increased the number of gang members being sent home to El Salvador, Honduras, Guatemala, and elsewhere... full article -> https://www.insightcrime.org/el-salvador-organized-crime-news/mara-salvatrucha-ms-13-profile/
     
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    hold your bated breath.
     
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    Huh?
     
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    Pelosi was clearly defending them against the President. And Maxine Waters also wanted people to be confronted while shopping, getting gas, dining out, etc. Are leftists being deliberately stupid or were they born that way?
     
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    How much support did Republicans get from Democrats in order to keep the American people safe and control immigration into the country?
     
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    Yes, as you just proved, the DP leadership defended MS-13.
     
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    Where did you get lost? Republicans had total control of the house, senate and White House for the past 2 years. They did exactly nothing about immigration or the wall.
     
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    More people are killed with bare hands than all rifles..
     
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    You don't say.
     
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    That gang members are indicted after they kill somebody? Definitely! How else would it be? Are you advocating that they go free or something?
     
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    I'm advocating they should have never been here in the first place.
     
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    Who? The victims or the murderers?
     
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    Perhaps you didn't understand the question so I'll rephrase it.. How many Democrats voted along with the Republicans to provide a secure southern border? The Republicans had a few who did not vote for a border wall but, if you recall, none of the Democrats did. They needed some cooperation from the Democrats to protect the southern border but, as you know, the Democrats refused and called any problems at the border a "manufactured crisis".

    Do you still believe this crisis is 'manufactured'?
     
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    So you are still lost I see. Republicans had total control of Congress and the White House for the last 2 years. They didn’t need democrats in order to build the wall they now pretend we desperately need. And they did exactly nothing about it.
     
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    You still didn't understand the questions? Perhaps you can get your mother to help you.
     
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    So what is Pelosi's problem with the term?
     
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    I do, yes, it's a total hoax and has been from the beginning
     
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    why did Trump not go after ms-13 first, duh

    ms-13 doesn't belong to either party, and the dems do not want them here... .so for that part of your post I call fake news
     
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