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Mueller: Trump Could Be Charged with Obstruction of Justice After Leaving Office

Discussion in 'Current Events' started by Arkanis, Jul 24, 2019.

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  1. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Mueller said he believe it was unconstitutional to indict a sitting President, he was clear about that, that is the only reason Trump was not indicted
     
    FreshAir, Jul 25, 2019
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  2. TOG 6

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    Mueller said no such thing.
     
    TOG 6, Jul 25, 2019
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  3. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    what other reason did he give?
     
    FreshAir, Jul 25, 2019
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  4. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    about what?
     
    FreshAir, Jul 25, 2019
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  5. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Look at you - caught making a statement you know is not true. Again.
     
    TOG 6, Jul 25, 2019
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  6. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    look at you making a statement about people that is not true again
     
    FreshAir, Jul 25, 2019
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  7. TOG 6

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    :lol:
    You know you cannot quote Mueller where he said the prohibition by the OLC is "the only reason Trump was not indicted".
    Thus, you know what you posted is not true.
    :lol:
     
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    TOG 6, Jul 25, 2019
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  8. Badaboom

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    Your life as a lefty, of course.
     
    Badaboom, Jul 25, 2019
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  9. FreshAir

    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he said, they did not even consider it because of the OLC memo

    now if you can show me another reason, please do

    otherwise your wrong and you know it
     
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    FreshAir, Jul 25, 2019
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  10. TOG 6

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    Thank you for confirming you knew Mueller did not say "the only reason Trump was not indicted", and thus, confirming you knew your statement was false when you posted it.
     
    TOG 6, Jul 25, 2019
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  11. Pollycy

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    Typical Democrat denial-syndrome. The last time I checked Trump was not in jail, and, it is the crudball, America-hating Democrat Party whose operatives are coming under microscopic legal scrutiny for leveraging their bought-and-paid-for "Steele Dossier" into a fraud 'investigation' and witch hunt designed to sabotage the legitimate government of the United States.

    This is obviously a form of back-stabbing TERRORISM, Freshy... and don't you share the opinion that all terrorists who operate against the government of the United States should be rounded up, shipped off to Gitmo, and KEPT THERE, indefinitely...?
     
    Pollycy, Jul 25, 2019
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  12. MolonLabe2009

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    No. The reason that Trump wasn't indicted was because Mueller said yesterday that his team did "not reach a determination as to whether the President committed a crime."

    That means there was insufficient evidence and therefore no crime.

    Try to keep up.
     
    MolonLabe2009, Jul 25, 2019
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  13. Bluesguy

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    Everyone knows we didn't all vote in one election.
     
    Bluesguy, Jul 25, 2019
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  14. Bluesguy

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    He could bring charges which would then be prosecuted when the President left office, more likely like Clinton plea bargained but since the DOJ including the OLC has already stated there was no obstruction of justice it's a moot point.
     
    Bluesguy, Jul 25, 2019
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    No. I’ve driven by Gettysburg many times, but never stopped.
     
    Texas Republican, Jul 25, 2019
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    Binging up charges, which he is free to do and had a duty to do, is not the same as handing him an indictment and ordering him to appear in court which would have to wait and anyway had nothing to do with the declination by the DOJ.
     
    Bluesguy, Jul 25, 2019
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    Wait....wasn't that what got Hillary off on the server fiasco and the Right went crazy about 'intent'?
     
    Cubed, Jul 25, 2019
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    No, what got Hillary off the hook are the same people who were trying to take Trump out.

    That's why they they've all been fired.

    Having classified information on an unclassified system that you own is a federal crime. Period t. Black and white.

    The same government officials were trying to elect Clinton regardless of the facts, and convict Trump, regardless of the facts.

    That's why we HAVE the "Russia investigation".
     
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    Cubed Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No, it was FBI Lawyer Baker who decided (after some convincing) that she didn't have the necessary 'knowledge or criminal intent' to be charged.

    I agree with you that she got a pass, but the issue is the same. How does one prove the mindset of an individual.
     
    Cubed, Jul 25, 2019
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  20. vman12

    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    If you own a computer, and that computer has classified information on it, you have committed a crime.

    That's an actual crime that there is evidence of.

    On the other hand, a DNC employee says Russia hacked their server, and Hillary Clinton paid millions of dollars to say Trump was working with Russia on the hack.

    Good luck with that analogy.
     
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    I agree with the first part. Not sure why you keep repeating it because the actual merit of the case is immaterial. I don't care if it's actually a crime or not (even though it is). I'm saying that the defense is the same and it's impossible to tell one way or the other without a smoking gun.
     
    Cubed, Jul 25, 2019
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  22. Nunya D.

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    Not properly securing classified documents and/or Negligence does not require criminal intent.
     
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  23. vman12

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    No, the defense is not the same.

    In case 1 a crime was committed and ignored.

    In case 2, the same government took fake information from the opposing candidate and tried to knowingly use it against the other candidate.
     
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  24. Robert

    Robert Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I and my family really enjoyed it there. There is a very good museum on site. But when I was there the weather was great and hiking around at least got us exercise.
     
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  25. FreshAir

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    that is what he said, if you can give another reason he gave, feel free to share, maybe I missed it
     
    FreshAir, Jul 25, 2019
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