Active shooter at CA food festival.

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  1. TOG 6

    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Mostly because laws cannot prevent apoplexy from breaking other laws.
    Patently.
     
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    TOG 6 Well-Known Member

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    Nice made-up number you have there.
     
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    https://reason.com/2016/03/22/australias-gun-buyback-created-a-violent
    https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2014/04/04/australian-motorcycle-gang-diy-firearms-surface/
    https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2013/11/19/home-built-m11-submachine-guns-seized-australia/

    Why make your own? Because you're making a gun for a job. You take it to the job, murder some people with it, drop it and bug out. The gun is made from generic items found at any hardware store. No trace. No serial numbers to be recovered. Parts are from all over and can be sourced years in advance.
    You can make full auto submachine guns easily. A favorite for gangland shootings worldwide.
     
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    Inherently, neither.
     
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    In Nevada. And he seems to have not actually established domicile properly (there are questions. Info still coming out).
    If so he didn't buy properly in NV.
    But certainly that rifle in CA is illegal. So are the magazines.
     
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    Tell us again how US school kids are being "slaughtered, en masse", at a rate of 4.14 per year, in school shootings.
     
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    When they walked into the perimeter of the festival. That the guy cut in to and had a fox in the henhouse moment for
     
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    Wow, Australia has done a number on their sheople!
     
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    Correct. He drove across the border and committed a felony.
     
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    FYI, carrying all the weapons you want, if someone walks up from behind, you don't have a chance. Your notion that everyone carry is not going to happen, stop trying to live in fantasy land.
     
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    M'kay.
    So?
     
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    Read the link !!!
     
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    Top marks actually. It was my major in college for a bit until I switched to a degree in Philosophy (Bachelor's of Arts) with a minor in Political Science, which I then parlayed into a Juris Doctorate and a license to practise law.

    Picking up a rock or a stick or otherwise crafting or acquiring more sophisticated tools, and bearing same to use in defense of yourself or your kin is a natural human right. A gun is simply one of those more sophisticated tools, as is a sword.
     
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    Mostly because you believe post hoc fallacies are a sound arguments.
     
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    There is no link.
     
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    Everyone doesn't need to carry. There are a number of men mentioned in the articles who sensibly drew their mates into cover and concealment. Numerous of them had clear unobstructed sight lines on the shooter. They had time to chat with their mate, exchange words about who might save them or not.
    That was time they could've used to shoot that *********ker 15 times center mass.
     
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    He re-wrote the definition of "machinegun" in the National Firearms Act and all related statutes by executive order.
    Don't be coy.
     
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    When enough people are carrying guns criminals will no longer pull a gun in public.
    The very best deterrent to crime - especially gun crime is for the criminals to be gunned down in the act.
     
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    Legally, assault rifles are -exactly- as hard to buy as machineguns.
     
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    Generally the adage is "when its time to bury them its time to dig them up".
    If our government so fully turns from our social contract as to make slaves of its citizenry, that is when you will find a civil war in our nation.
     
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    Well that was a odd sort of exchange :wierdface:
     
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    Does the fact you can create a scenario where carrying a gun might not help you negate all of the scenarios where it very well might?
    A criminal can get the drop in a police officer - is it useless for them to carry a gun?
     
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    I don't think we are supposed to know that.

    "Assault rifles and machine guns are being seized at an alarming rate. Photo: Penny Stephens The Soviet-era assault rifle is the weapon of choice for Third World armies and terrorists, but this one was destined for the streets of Melbourne.

    The notion that a military-grade weapon could be in the hands of local criminals is shocking, but police have already seized at least five machine guns and assault rifles in the past 18 months. The AK-47 was not among them.

    Only a fortnight ago, law enforcement authorities announced they were hunting another seven assault rifles recently smuggled into the country. Weapons from the shipment have been used in armed robberies and drive-by shootings.
    These are just a handful of the thousands of illicit guns fuelling a wave of violent crime in the world’s most liveable city."

    THE AGE, YOUNG, DUMB AND ARMED, How Melbourne became a gun city
    https://www.theage.com.au/interactive/2016/gun-city/day1.html
     
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    Now, point out which "law abiding population" were armed before the amendment
     

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