Ronald Reagan Makes Racist Comment To Richard Nixon

No my friend and you know you made a boo boo.

Secession indeed was connected to slavery.

But the war, our worst all time war ... that was easy to prevent. All Abe had to do was stop crapping his pants and not invade.

Without the blunder of an Abe invasion, it would have been peace and secession.

 

So that should be another thread.
Don't keep derailing this one.

 

Wish Melania would do that to Trump more often

Be Best

 

Only a poster with clean hands should be so rude to me.

 

Revisionism dismissed.
Abe was elected mostly on the slavery issue. Hence the secession of the south and those racists.

Abe didn't invade.

In late 1860 and early 1861, South Carolina and other southern states withdrew from the Union. They formed a new nation called the Confederate States of America.

But Abraham Lincoln, the president of the United States, said the southern states did not have right to secede. And he said he would not accept the South’s demand to remove U.S. soldiers from South Carolina. The soldiers defended a base in Charleston Harbor called Fort Sumter.

So, Confederate leaders ordered an attack. Just before sunrise on April 12, 1861, a shell exploded above Fort Sumter. It was the first shot fired in the American Civil War.
https://learningenglish.voanews.com/a/first-shot-civil-war-fort-sumter/2441338.html

 

Meanwhile, at the exact same time in U.S. history, -mainstream- Democrat candidates were using the N word openly in their campaigning... and not talking about backwards foreigners, but BLACK UNITED STATES CITIZENS. So tell us all more about Reagan's "racism" based on an accurate estimation of backwards Africans. They are still backwards, and their governing structures resemble ape hierarchies more than human. Fact. Acknowledging that fact is not even a racial observation but a cultural-economic one. But sure, let's all go down to the Congo and do some "rapin" to show solidarity with the offended African sages and innocent victims of Reagan's slanderous "racism."

 

You can't rebut history so yes there is no point in your arguing otherwise. I am from the South and was VP of Teen Age Republicans in a major Southern city in 1968-69 so don't even begin to think your going to claim some higher authority. I know what we stood for and watched those good ole Democrat segregationist lose the Civil Rights battles and then slowly either die off or get voted out as my generation came of voting age. There was no hugh shift of Democrats politicians they weren't about to give up what power they had by switching parties, that's nonsense. We were the ones who rejected segregation and the Democrats and became that Republican conservative base. Because of Nixon I became an independent and have been ever since.

 

Ahh yes he did for the purpose bringing the Southern states back into the Union with their slavery fully intact. His armies ended up destroying everything and causing the deaths of almost a million people. Lincoln could have said OK be your own country. Let's negotiate. Let's don't go killing each other. And there were slave states in the Union where slavery was legal throughout the war even after it ended.

And in the mist of peaceful negotiations to settle the matter of Confederate, South Carolina territorial waters the Union army began to reinforce and arm the fort for a blockade which is an act of war. The Union force the had of the Confederacy with that act. But even after that Lincoln had no need to invade the South.

 

For a claimed southerner, you seem to not know the south secession history.

 

More than most around here who when they can't refute the history end up with snarky remarks.

 

Oh Abe invaded alright. I have spent hours at the battle site studying the moves made by both sides. Abe and a wagon train invaded from DC.

Abe was under no obligation to invade despite the cannon not harming any in the fort. A good study for you would be the study of those cannon used by the Confederates to see how weak they actually were.

 

What part of confederate leaders ordered an attack, doesn't register?

 

Depends on what you call an attack. I know Abe ordered one hell of an invasion into VA from DC. There are books that will teach you this.

 

So, Confederate leaders ordered an attack. Just before sunrise on April 12, 1861, a shell exploded above Fort Sumter. It was the first shot fired in the American Civil War.

I consider shooting arsenal as an attack upon a US installation. How about you?

 

And the fact is they were in negotiation over the fort, Lincoln had said they would not reinforce of move canon there threatening a blockade, an act of war, and then the Union army did just that. Those were declare South Carolina, Confederacy coastal waters, and active port. Blockading is an act of war.

 

Yes as the Union against prior agreement began reinforcing and moving canon in order to be able to blockade from contested land, an act of war. It was not an arsenal it was a fort under construction and the Union attempted to arm it. And after the firing and the Union left the fort Lincoln still did not have to invade the Confederacy, he could have said OK states can secede let's be neighbors and trade with each other.

 

An act of war on who/what? Traitors.
But Lincoln did not fire the 1st shot. Traitors to the USA did. Illegal declarations is not legit. Blockading their very own land/assets is an act of war. Come on.

 

So you are saying ABE screwed up by dragging his ass until he invaded VA on July 16, 1861.

Bouncing balls off fort walls are not an attack.

How many did you claim were injured in Ft Sumter by the Confederates?

 

A country doesn't negotiate with traitors.

 

They ALWAYS forget that part and their racist past but they never miss a chance to scream racist at others. The Hypocrisy is just plain laughable.

 

Traitors. Protecting USA assests against traitors is allowed. Not an act of war.
Again, the election of Lincoln was mostly due to traitors wanting to own other people. Particularly black people. Traitors and Racists. That is the history of the SOUTH of the USA. Quit defending traitors and racists.

 

Show where I said that.

 

I wasn’t surprised.

Not that this makes Reagan a drooling bigot in the George Wallace/Lester Maddox sense.

Dwight Eisenhower made comments about “big buck negroes” around aides when dithering over sending the National Guard into Little Rock in 1956.

It was very typical of the sort of casual prejudice that was very common in those days, and which (alas) is all over this forum now.

And this was the time when Ronald Reagan was a regular punch line in the Tonight Show.

He was such a reliable joke that Johnny Carson could start with “California Governor Ronald Reagan said today..........” and just leave the phrase hanging while the audience laughed.

 

I can’t believe conservatives keep bringing up this dumb point. First, the KKK switched sides after the civil rights act was passed. Second, you don’t see dems idolizing former KKK members the way conservatives idolize Reagan. Remember how Trump tried to compare himself to Reagan during his campaign? Why do you think he did that? Because he knows Reagan is the ‘hero’ of modern conservatism. The only conservative I know who has been critical of Reagan is Ben Shapiro.

 

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