SBU arrests DPR militant that transported BUK used on MH17.

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  1. Eadora

    Eadora Well-Known Member

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    Laughable! [​IMG]- Your confidence is grossly misplaced [​IMG]
    ......................................................................... and looks worse than foolish

    "We Lie, We Cheat, We Stold, We had entire trainiing courses,
    ...................It reminds me of the glory of the American experiment"
    .............................................................CIA Director - Mike Pompeo

    And what was the responce to this revelation? The audience laughed & applauded
    ......................................................................................................[​IMG] .......[​IMG]
     
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  2. PARTIZAN1

    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Just becauseTrump Craps on his own intelligence agencies because his ego will not allow him to admit that what 17 agencies and Mueller said was true. I will turn it you. Go and show me proof that the Russian Buk wasn't fired by Russians or pro Russian traitor scum.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    Ha
    ha ha! God , facts, and truth are on my side. Russians and traitor rebel scum shot form the MH17.
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    First of all the verb is "stole" not "stold" which is not an English word. You are confusing the process with the results. Of course an intelligence agency steals from the enemy , cheats to get info from and on the enemy, and lies to the enemy. Ask the KGB Scum Turd named Putin. If he was honest he would tell you that the NKVD, KGB, GRU, CHECKA, and SBU has donevandvwill do the same. Those are the tools of the trade. Furthermore satellite spying is not the sole tool of the CIA.

    What you posted is childish. Your criticism of the CIA would be like saying the an army is wrong to kill. Armies kill thatbis a result of war.
     
  5. Thedimon

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    Zach as?

    Or maybe they were ridiculed as Russian fakes? You know, a former Russian cosmonaut claimed in OSCE that she saw shelling in east Ukraine from space with her naked eyes.
    Or Russian story of SU-25 shooting down that plane.

    She talked about state aid. There was nothing she said that implied the US caused Yanukovich to flee.

    Unrelated BS meant to serve as sand in someone’s eyes. Deflection.

    If you find it easier to believe Russian media, that is owned by Russia, which is ran by a secretive regime that has proven to lie (a lot), than western or any other news agency then you, sir, are an idiot.
     
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    zoom_copter66 Well-Known Member

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    Kool aid is a great refreshment and is in several flavors.

    I should say in your case more like "samogon"...., Various flavors are what, sulphuric acid, turpentine, metal hydrate(gas line antifreeze).

    No, the SU25 theory has been debunked and it's crap, and it's been pretty much established that the Russki regulars that ....Invaded....DPR, let's be clear on that, fired the missile, and quickly scurried back into RF territory.
    No propaganda, face it you've lost the narrative here and you're outta road.
     
  7. Eadora

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    & Wars sir -
    I would inform - are [​IMG]'thatbis' [​IMG] the results of Lies, Cheats, & Theivery

    So all YOU have done here is to admit that :
    Of course YOUR intelligence agencies Lie, Cheat & Steal - that's their job
    That is why YOU have such 'strict confidence' in them and why YOU so
    ......................... slavishly & 'childishly' believe what ever it is they tell you

    ......................................................[​IMG]
    & YOU see NO contradiction here ? - No squeak in all those gears
    between the ears .... - Well Good Luck to Yah Bros.[​IMG] when that
    Cognitive Dissonent -boogeyman- finally catches up to yah and
    drills a few well places holes in that ossified Bone YOU call YOUR
    ..........................................................................
    free-will directed Brain


    Now not being a fan, of the one whom you call "the KGB Scum Turd"
    ...................................... a rather puerile & childish slurr - May I suggest
    ........................................It is always good practice to dig the CRUD from under
    ........................................your own nails before you attempt to finger an opponent

    .........................................................................................................................And for your enlightenment
    ........................................................................................[​IMG]
     
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    PARTIZAN1 Well-Known Member

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    I do not have any crud under my nails to dig. But you know that. You are criticizing our American intelligence agencies for doing less heinous things that Soviet and Russian agencies had done and done worse things than our American agencies.

    I call Putin a Scum turd because he is a dictator, a murderer, an invader, and has been destroying the rights of Russian citizens. I know that just as Trump says some Mexicans are good or fine people there must be some good Russians such as Novalniy and all of those journalists that Putin had killed off.
     
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    What kind of facts? I see only "blah blah". Talk with an antirussian troll is like playing chess with a pidgeon. It'll just knock over all the pieces, s**t on the board, and strut about like it's won anyway.
     
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    MrFirst Banned Past Donor

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    Maybe it's in your dakota language the phrase "as far as I remember" means uncertainty. You, villagers, are cute and naive people...
    But I will remind you this question. I will update this thread, so everyone could be sure that all Ukrainian propaganda isn't worth anything. Just endless blah-blah-blah.
     
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    Nothing anti Russian about pointing out that Pro Russian traitors or Russians shot down that aircraft. Your problem is that you cannot proove that Russians or pro Russian traitor trash ( the word trash modifies the word traitor) shot down that aircraft so you are shingles and accusing me of being anti Russian which I am not. What I am anti is Russia's actions such as invasion of my parents homeland, sending my grandfathers to Siberia, committing genocide by murdering 6-8 million Ukrainians in a forced hunger, etc etc..... Hating the evil actions of Russia is NOT being anti-Russian. It's the same as hating the actions of the Nazis who sent both of my parents to forced labor camps is not the same as hating Germans.
     
  12. zoom_copter66

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    Uncertain and full of ****.

    Nothing wrong with my ...how you say, "Dakota language". I don't need to use Google translate. I don't live in a village, unlike your backwater somewhere in the Caucases.

    Ukies propaganda not worth "anything"?

    Far more truth than those Putinka owned urinals what you call news.

    No surprise though, most vatniks consider Ukies barely above snot, but barely ever look at themselves and what a backwater sovok they are.
     
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    The burden of proof is on the one doing the accusation
    so noted that you can't provide us with proof that the americans actually have satelite images.

    And nobody outside the US believes or trusts US intelligent services since that iraq war, spying on merkel and a few other scandals in recent passed.
     
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    did i say russians are trustworthy or capable ?
    trying to turn it arround doesnt take away that the Americans love saying we got proof, believe us and afterwards it turns out to be lies

    so why should we believe them now ? can't provide proof = no proof
     
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    HHhmmm [​IMG]

    It is good to speak out against Evil dictators, who murder and invade, is it not ?
    A
    fter all, as is often quoted: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of Evil is for good men
    to do nothing
    ." Yet for all your rant against the, - as you say- "scum turd " Putin, there seems
    to me a couple of things amiss in your priorities regarding this man and his alleged Atrocities
    Something NOT quite right in the Calculus to your approach to the opposing of Evil

    First Off - Your Tax Dollar$ do NOT fund or support his dictatorship nor do they fund, or
    support, or perpetrate any of his murderous or invasive policies. Do they?

    Secondly - Any murders Mr. Putin may have committed against journalists, airline passengers,
    or Ukrainian Rebels - PALE in comparison to unnumbered Hundreds of Thousands of victims
    who have succumbed to the Evils perpetrated by American supported Dictators, such as in
    Saudi Arabia, or throughout Central America etc. etc. - Nor do they come close to the
    outrageous, and again innumerable American bombings and invasions, that have returned
    whole prosperous countries back into the stone age, from which they may never recover in our
    life time. See Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan & Syria. So when it comes to murder and invasion,
    I
    suggest - Mr. Putin is so far behind YOUR Government that he has no chance of ever catching
    ....................... up to the gouts of Blood that YOUR Government has spilled unless he begins full on
    .............................................................................................................................................. NUCLEAR WAR.

    Now ALL the policies that have resulted in these Outrageous Atrocities have been and ARE now..
    ................................................
    presently funded, supported and instigated with YOUR TAX DOLLAR$

    Are you aware that when your Secretary of State tells you that the Starvation and Disease
    murder of half a million Iraqi children is " A PRICE WE FEEL IS WORTH IT" - & that if you
    as "a good man do nothing," then YOU become complicit and to some good measure, pay that
    ........................................................................................... price & become guilty of those Atrocities ?

    Now you try to assure us that - "you do not have any CRUD under your nails to dig "
    May I suggest that you approach the mirror of self reflection and honestly look a little closer.
    [​IMG]
    The CRUD is there - It is the dried ignored Blood of the innocent victims of the scofflaw
    Plutocratic Dictatorship that is the REAL Government of The United States of America.

    Look closely in that mirror and you may even begin to discern that the "Theater of the Absurd"
    that right/left corrupt Punch & Judy puppet show you call your Government is but a phony
    store front - A shell game trick to divert and entertain you from the truth of who actually wields
    the power in your country

    A Clique of Unbridled Corporate Power and moneyed Elite

    That is why, when you elect asshole like Obama to end foreign Wars, those Wars continue and
    even get worse. or when you elect an idiot like Trump who promises diplomatic rapprochement
    with Russia, your affairs with that country worsen.

    Face the FACTs that mirror reveals to you
    " If your vote had even the slightest chance of changing anything, you would not be allowed to vote"

    So what be your definition of Dictator, murderer, and invader - Good PARTIZAN1 ?


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    Well, commission in Netherlands that investigated the crash kinda sided with the US ;)
    But they are all stupid. You are the smart guy and you know everything.
     
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    That has been debunked only in your head and the offices of Bellingcat, propaganda company extraordinaire.

    Those able to think on their own understand it was another false flag staged event by the western powers.
     
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    Does it mean you still claim SU25 shot down that plane?
     
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    My position has been clear from the start sir: some sort of military jet fired on MH17. Maybe a modernized 25, maybe a 27. The Kiev government won't tell us which. The Kiev government has not turned over any records on that matter or on the ATC changes it delivered to MH17
     
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    I was sure that there has already been all the witnesses and guilty found. But yet every month I learn that another undebatable evidence was found that it was Russia and Putin who shot down that plane. So far I have never seen any of the evidence from official service. With such an approach we might learn the truth in another 50 years, when CIA decides that time has come.
     
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    But how about Russians? They didn’t claim there was SU27, they claimed it was SU25.
    Do you agree with them? Can we settle on SU25?
     
  22. Eleuthera

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    The simple truth is that MH17 was not taken down by BUK, it was taken down by airborne cannon fire.

    The simple truth is that the entire story as told by western media was a false flag intended to demonize Russia.
     
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    You want truth?
    Commission from Netherlands published their report. You want more? Go there and knock on their door.
     
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    What?
     
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    From the very beginning the Russian radar showed climbing SU25 aircraft. They made that information public immediately.

    It is possible that the Russian radar was spoofed, but maybe it wasn't.
     

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