Portland protests Aug. 17: What you need to know

Indeed.

They are also what the brownshirts were in Nazi Germany.

 

I support anybody who opposes The Proud Boys and similar neo-facist ideologies, like MAGA....

I don't care what they call themselves ....

 

Antifa Funding
Because Antifa is a decentralized movement consisting of many loosely affiliated groups as well as individuals acting on a freelance basis, it is difficult to trace most of its funding sources with any degree of specificity. Some publications have suggested that a financial connection exists between Antifa and the multi-billionaire leftist George Soros. But whatever money the movement may receive from high-profile financiers (like Soros) or charitable foundations, ultimately makes its way to Antifa by way of a very circuitous path. This is because few philanthropies or big-name funders want to risk tarnishing their own reputations by openly supporting hordes of violent radicals.

One organization that can be definitively identified as a funder of the Antifa movement is the Alliance For Global Justice (AfGJ), which was founded in 1998 by members of the Nicaragua Network, an organization that had been created nineteen years earlier to support the Marxist Sandinista regime in Nicaragua. AfGJ serves as the fiscal sponsor of Refuse Fascism, a constituent organization of the Antifa movement. The Capital Research Center’s Matthew Vadum reports that AfGJ “acts as fiscal sponsor for Antifa groups.”

Describing itself as an “anti-capitalist,” “anti-imperialist,” “people’s think tank” whose activities include “a whole lot of organizing,” AfGJ seeks to train young activists to build a “unified grassroots movement” capable of creating “a socially, ecologically and economically just world” that offers “alternatives” to the “domination of governments, global financial institutions, and multinational corporations which denigrate the world’s peoples and devastate ecosystems.”

In its ongoing “struggle for liberation from Empire,” AfGJ denounces “neoliberal economics,” “corporate globalization,” and “privatization,” contending that “a just society is oriented toward meeting the needs … of its own people, not toward creating vast inequality and mega-profits for those at the top at the expense of the many.” To combat “the concentration of wealth and power [that] is the root cause of oppression,” says AfGJ, there must be a “fundamental change in international and national conditions that disempower people, create [economic and political] disparities, poison the earth, and plunder its resources.” By AfGJ’s reckoning, it is government’s duty to satisfy “the right of people to shelter, sufficient food, medical care, education, employment, [and] leisure,” and to dismantle societal “structures that distribute wealth in ways that deny anyone those basic rights.”

Over the years, AfGJ has served as a fiscal sponsor to more than 85 separate organizations, including the aforementioned Antifa ally known as Refuse Fascism. The Capital Research Centerexplains that fiscal sponsorship “allows donors who want to give to a group that lacks tax-exempt status to donate instead to the AfGJ,” which in turn funnels the money — minus a small service fee — to the designated recipient. “This mechanism helps individual donors, who may now deduct the donation from their income taxes, and also helps foundation donors, who are generally forbidden to give to groups that lack nonprofit status.” In addition to serving as Refuse Fascism’s fiscal sponsor, AfGJ has also given at least$50,000 directly to that organization.

Meanwhile, AfGJ over the years has received funding from a number of left-wing philanthropies, including George Soros‘s Open Society Foundations, the Tides Foundation, the Arca Foundation, the Firedoll Foundation, the Brightwater Fund, the New World Foundation, the Foundation for Deep Ecology, the Hill Snowdon Foundation, the Ben and Jerry’s Foundation, the Bank of America Charitable Foundation, the Bank of America Charitable Gift Fund, the Aetna Foundation, the Fidelity Investments Charitable Gift Fund, and the Schwab Charitable Fund.

While the funding provided by AfGJ has been important to Antifa, Lee Stranahan, writing in Breitbart.com, observes that the angry passions of Antifa activists generally require no extrinsic motivation from outside funding sources: “While it’s been proven that funders like Soros and the Democratic Party have paid protest organizers and some protesters, groups like the violent Black Bloc typically aren’t motivated by money, but instead come to protests because of their anti-American ideology, base criminal desires and thrill seeking.”
https://www.discoverthenetworks.org/organizations/antifa/

 

Leftists need not waste their time reading this.

I'm posting this again, as I see the usual outright lies of the SPLC being posted here, about the OathKeepers. Hopefully they'll be successfully sued again as they were recently. Here is what the OathKeepers have said about that demonstration. Conservatives and sensible people of all political persuasions who are against the fascist 'Anti-Fascists' should particularly note the second emboldened paragraph.

It's not a question of abstract right or wrong, of your right of self defense. The mainstream media are quite capable, as we have seen, of extreme distortion of reality in pursuit of their agenda, and there are large numbers of utterly dishonest people without honor or conscience who will do or say anything if they think it will advance their political goals.

We must not be seen to be the aggressors --- which means not only must we not BE the aggressors, we must not be seen to BE the aggressors.

The gutless AntiFa cowards have exactly the same mentality as the old Klan -- gang up on your victims and lie about them. When faced with these sorts of people, and with a police force that was sympathetic to them, the Southern Civil Rights movement (of which I was a part) had to exercise extreme restraint -- we had to show middle America that it was them, not us, provoking violence. That means we had to take casualties. But that's what you do in war. You exercise fire discipline.

They will label us as 'white supremacists' and then casually boast of their desire to kill white supremacists. In other words, they are endorsing killing us. They themselves no doubt lack the courage to do this, but weaker minds will get the idea. Of course now would be a good time to buy that AR15 and accessories.

There will be more confrontations like the one in Portland. We need to pay close attention to what the OathKeepers' leader is saying here, because his strategic sense is absolutely sound. Note especially his warning against casual macho threats made on Social Media. Don't let your emotions take charge. Better to say nothing than to say or write something that a slimey lawyer can construe as a threat.

Things are changing in America and we have to keep our heads.

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The Proud Boys don't wear masks like Antifa does. Criminals wear masks. I believe the fascists are Antifa. The Proud boys aren't trying to shut down free speech

 

I'm less than impressed so far.

*wipes away tear*

Here I thought there would be more conflict...

 

So, I like the ignore function here. Does she have problems with "those people" or the policies they're pushing?

 

No, it's not.

 

LIVE BREAKING NEWS PORTLAND OREGON BOOGALOO 2019 AUGUST 17 ANTIFA PROUD BOYS PATRIOTS

Live Streaming video - boring so far

 

So what's the death toll at? How many people have those big bad Antifians killed?

 

Haaahahahahaaa!

Your neo-fascism is showing.

 

I think the old dude got whatever to the face a few minutes ago, simply because the crowd saw CNN cameras

 

I almost pity them. the only person that wants communism or socialism is someone who doesn't have any future. I think they're just nihilist with no hope. So they want money to take their drugs or get there sex change hormones because they were lied to in public schools " go to college follow your passion" and they realize their passion doesn't pay anything. Now they want to make the world this miserable as they are.

 

I can't tell what the heck they are doing. They have been walking probably over a mile through downtown. Saw one guy on a motorcycle get arrested. Didn't seem to be connected to any of them, just loud exhaust cop didn't like I guess.

 

Probably waiting until it gets darker.

Tear gas and flash bangs make better press at night...

 

Antifa and the Collectivist Way of War

Collectivists need war, or, in more palatable contemporary terms, an “emergency,” to usurp power for themselves for their domineering and hateful ends.

The Left cannot denounce Antifa because Antifa embodies the very ethos of war and violence that collectivism needs to thrive on. To assail Antifa would be to attack the heart of the cancerous poison that is destroying liberty oriented societies.

The aim of collectivists in free societies is not to wage a bloody revolution like the Jacobins or the Bolsheviks. The modern advocates of collectivism disintegrate the integral and wholesome reality of liberty. “We are instructed by the enemies of freedom masquerading as advocates of freedom to distinguish between ‘positive’ and ‘negative’ freedom, between the ‘old’ and the ‘new’ freedom, between ‘social,’ ‘political,’ ‘civil,’ ‘economic,’ and ‘personal’ freedom.” By focusing on only one or two freedoms, we are distracted as we lose our other freedoms.

Left-wing collectivists pose as champions of one type of distinguished freedom, while perniciously eroding and destroying all the other types of freedom. Rather than see freedom as interconnected and wholesome, let alone organic, the new collectivists see institutions as oppressive and present integral society as backward and tyrannical. The new Lefty, who is a Bolshevik in all but name, therefore fronts himself as a champion of engineered liberty; which is to say that he controls what freedoms the population will be allowed to have.

Collectivism thrives on war. In fact, it needs war. Collectivism demands the mobilization of people to advance its aims. As such, it is necessary for collectivists to always have an existential threat which allows for the perpetuation of mobilized society. The real spring of collectivism is not a love of liberty, but war. The anticipation of war is the great incentive, and the conduct of war is the great collectivizing process.

Antifa claims to be for peace. Its purpose is war. Antifa exists to counter an imaginary existential threat fantasized to conceal its true, bloodthirsty, and violent purpose of being. There is nothing libertarian or organic about Antifa. It is a socially engineered monster meant to act as shock troops of the final collectivist campaign for the domination of what used to be free American society. Antifa exists, as it does in Portland, above the law. Without the law to keep the peace, we are in a state of war which allows for collectivism to present itself as the new agent of order while imposing tyranny from above.

 

They are miserable beasts.

 

You are right!

The Democratic Party has been controlled by collectivists ever since FDR, and with the end of the Cold War there no longer exists a rationale for the US to submit to so much centralization of power. As power naturally begins to return to the People, the Left works to foment violence in order to maintain the justification for centralization. The patron god of the collectivists in America, and because the collectivist psyche and ideology needs war to sustain itself, the Democrats will never be able to condemn Antifa. Why? Because that would entail condemning its own philosophy of warring domination to “fundamentally transform” the United States. This is not a recent phenomenon, it is a deeply rooted one, though Antifa is the most recent manifestation of this phenomenon of collectivism.

War War War from The Left

We are told that there is a war on women. We are told that there is a war against minorities. We are told that there is a war on gays, lesbians, and the rest of the imaginary rainbow. We are told that there is a war on poor people. We are told that there is a war on decency and civility. There is a war on everything, according to the Left. And they use this prop of war to front themselves as champions of the “new freedom” which is, in reality, a front for further collectivist control.

Collectivists in America do not openly seek the revolutions that tear down in an uncontrollable rage like the Jacobins or Bolsheviks of old but corrode and rearrange from the inside. They wage a revolution behind the scenes, but we are catching on.

Antifa may come and go. But what it represents and embodies is nothing short of the bloodthirsty and domineering ethos that possessed the Jacobins to kill hundreds of thousands to try to reorganize French society in 1789 and the Bolsheviks to slay millions in their bloodthirsty effort to reorganize Russian society. Free societies collectivists cannot openly embrace such revolutionary tactics as they do in societies without the same longstanding and organic traditions of liberty. Instead, they slip into the system and reorganize from the inside -- slowly taking away our freedoms under the illusion of new "freedoms" and new "progress".

Antifa’s manifesto calls for the reorganization of American society and the creation of a new man. That’s precisely what collectivists past and present have always dreamed of achieving. And collectivists need war, or, in more palatable contemporary terms, an “emergency,” to usurp power for themselves for their domineering and hateful ends. Collectivists need an imaginary enemy, like Goldstein in 1984, the “capitalists” according to Marxists, or the “Nazis” for Anti-fascists, to continue fighting their war for totalizing control over all people and society.

But, we are not fooled!

 

Doesn't matter. They're hateful punks, and the best way to handle a hateful punk is to bust his nose the second he gets violent.

 

I'm sorry, who was it that got us into Iraq?

 

Zero.

Exactly as you would expect from inept, cowardly weaklings.

The only thing Antifa is capable of damaging is trash cans, the windows of a Starbucks, and the furniture in the basement of their parent's houses.

 

Islamists, and the entire congress.

EDIT: You're right though.

We should have concentrated on carpet bombing Pakistan, and Afghanistan with MOABs

 

Antifa demonizes itself.

Its a living billboard for the violence and ignorance of the left.

 

The entire Congress? A majority of House Democrats (126) voted against the Iraq war. You know how many Republicans voted against it? 6.