Feminist activist in Iran sentenced to 24 years in prison for removing hijab.

all in Republican states:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_offenders_executed_in_the_United_States_in_2018

All claiming to be moral Christianity types but forgot that their Jesus said 'let he who is without sin cast the first stone'.

 

Mebbe so if you are willing to overlook the USA's colonialist terrorism in Iraq and Afghanistan where hundreds of thousands have been butchered.

 

Innocents or terrorists?

 

Ben Ferencz called Bush's invasion of Iraq colonialist terrorism and demanded a new Nuremberg tribunal in order to impose criminal sanctions on him. Mr Ferencz knows fully well of which he speaks since he was at Nuremberg.

 

There are many things I don't know ... that is not one of them. That someone does not want to join your walk down the rabbit hole - means simply that - not that they do not know something.

What does egalitarianism have to do your claim that most feminists are radical feminists ?

 

It aint North Korea. While the US is hiding plenty of prisoners in their black sites as well.

 

Some women in the US congress do.

 

No...we're talking about the level of barbarism. And the US got mass shootings, mass incarcerations and public executions.

 

And most don't. And when they don't wear head coverings they're not imprisoned for 15 years.

But what does this poor Iranian woman being sent to prison for 15 years have to do with the United States?

 

Perhaps Mr. Ferencz can make a citizen's arrest.

 

In fact the topic is "Feminist activist in Iran sentenced to 24 years in prison for removing hijab", and has nothing to do with any other countries. I understand though that, in a show of mercy and religious tolerance, this sentence was reduced to just 15 years imprisonment.

I suppose they could have stoned her to death before Allah finally intervened..

 

The lies repeated here, such as Iran jailing anyone for 15 years for not wearing the hijab, is idiotic and to the extent it works, it shows the mental capacity of people who believe in them. That lie, as it relates to this case, is no different than claiming this woman was sentenced to 15 years in prison for "walking". Or a dozen other 'activities' that accompanied what made her actions different than millions of Iranians who don't observe the hijab everyday.

Unlike the US, Iran doesn't have a prison population of nearly 2.5 million people!! It would if it ever was anything like people here like to pretend.

Even protesting a government policy is not going to land anyone in jail necessarily, although you do need to obtain a license for holding protests legally. Not just in Iran, but in the US too. Where the legal standards come with different terminology, but are quite similar in fact.

Anyway, leaving the politicized propaganda aside, on the cultural front, let me say this:

The difficulty for certain societies which follow the forced westernization/secularization policies that are advocated by some ultimately is that these kind of societies produce classes of people who have are simply too different for any democratic process to be able to forge a serious consensus on any cultural type issue. Those societies then produce classes of people who are as foreign to one another as any two foreign nations can be. I see it in Turkey and that was the case in Iran before the revolution. While having a few people who are very different than others doesn't pose as much problem, having a society totally polarized on cultural issues is never the right answer if what you seek is true democratic governance.

The beauty in Iran is that, while we do have a large class of westernized people (much larger than before the revolution and not any smaller than say Turkey), as that process of 'westernization' has evolved more gradually, and its most visible differences somewhat regulated, it has seen the divide in society on these issues narrow. There were always be socio-economic differences everywhere, but 'traditional' Iranians are no longer all that 'traditional' by standards prevailing even in Turkey. There is absolutely a huge difference in that regard between Iran now compared to Iran before the revolution or what you see elsewhere in the Middle East. At the same time, on the other end of the spectrum, the other class of Iranians have discovered fashion and clothing styles which - while distinguishable from others in their society -- is less problematic still than what you would have otherwise. And this process allows for better, true, democratic governance, with shifts and changes coming gradually at the pace in society --- and led from within, not without.

 

What? I ask where i can get that pregnacy money. Am i not equal?

 

Pictures below from Iranian women participating in political activities that aren't just legal, but encouraged as a civic duty.




And on the other side

 

It's not clear what they're 'protesting' but all have their heads covered. That's as crazy as not allowing a woman, or man, to cover their heads.

And Iranians, who have often shouted "Death To America", "Death To Israel", want nuclear weapons? That would not be a very bad idea - and it will not happen. The culture is too primitive.

 

Thankfully, it is not up to you to decide anything (even if it fits your over-sized ego to pretend otherwise) -- nor are your descriptions of a culture far more enlightened and advanced than you will ever be, what matters at the end.

But you connecting these issues to "nuclear weapons" (leaving aside the fact that the real war against Iran isn't even about that) says what needs to be said about this case in the OP -- and why even voices that try to bring change who have allied themselves with the US, can ultimately have no genuine place in Iranian politics. No more than a voice from someone being sponsored by say Al Queda (regardless if it happens to hit on a point with any merit) would need to be heeded by anyone in America.

Which brings me to this video: one which tells you what the case in the OP is about. The description of the movement by its own leader (who is the most interesting and authentic voice that the US has ever tried to sponsor against Iran, I admit) isn't entirely false. It mainly neglects to mention two facts. First, that she works for the US government now. Specifically, for Voice of America. Second, that no campaign against any particular issue in Iran, which becomes part of a larger campaign to bring about an implosion in the country, can never expect to be "legal" and permitted in Iran. The threat to Iran is simply too 'imminent' and too 'grave', not by the particular point at contention on this issue per se, but more broadly, or that to ever be the case.

 

This I wanted to make clear for you. Not that making things crystal clear will change anything; no more than me explaining what the case in the OP (which hasn't even resulted in a final sentence and will likely see the initial sentence substantially reduced, despite it being a repeat offense by this person) change how you will describe the case -- even knowing about the facts you need to know.

But the pictures I posted include pictures from this rally:
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/11/world/middleeast/iran-election-rouhani-khamenei.html

The same slogans, if directed from outside, in an illegal gathering, with an agenda to bring about "implosion" as opposed to genuine democratic change, would of course result in some of these people arrested and charged. No country allows its enemies to openly organize and plot its "demise" or "doom".

 

Equal rights is egalitarianism, right?

 

As he (the world's foremost authority on the subject) pointed out, the UN had the authority to do so.

 

In Iran there are more women in colleges than men. Can't say that about Bush's pals in Saudi Arabia.

 

It is not really even a question comparing Iran to Saudi Arabia. I lived most of my life in the US. While there are differences, including in the fashion that they have had to adopt due to the hijab restrictions, there is much greater familiarity between the issues they face with those faced by women in America than those faced by women in many other Muslim societies, not just Saudi Arabia. And that is principally because Iran's evolution towards women's rights has occurred, since the revolution, from the bottom up and not the reverse which is what you have in most other Muslim countries. In other words, instead of the government forcing Iranian society to copy whatever is in vogue in the West, and creating resistance to that internally, in Iran it is Iranian society that forces its government to (slowly but surely) adapt to changes that meet the needs of the society.

 

You said none... tss tss. Also...
http://amishamerica.com/why-do-amish-women-cover-their-hair/

You can get killed in the streets for not paying taxes by chocking.

 

It has. You're comparing this to other countries who do not have this. While a country like the US,... you can life in jail for stealing 50 bucks. lol
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/aug/29/alvin-kennard-sentenced-to-life-released-prison

 

Then, on the recommendation of this 'world's foremost authority' the UN forces can show up at the White House to arrest the US President.

 

The Sun is really hot .. Right ?